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smg58 wrote: DeGrom has certainly earned the right to be part of the rookie discussion. Hamilton has a .717 OPS in a pitchers' park, so while his speed and defense are big plusses, I'm not conceding anything to him in July. Agreed. I'd give it to Hamilton right now in a slight edge over deGrom, although I'm sensing that deGrom would pass Hamilton in my book soon enough so long as he maintains his effectiveness. A team imposed pitch limit would hinder deGrom's chances of winning this award.

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Mets rookie pitcher Jacob deGrom named National League player of the week Mets rookie deGrom went 2-0 last week, posting a 0.68 ERA with 11 strikeouts and just three walks in two starts to share the award with Marlins' closer Steve Cishek. BY Jason Rubinstein NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Published: Monday, July 28, 2014, 4:17 PM The accolades are finally coming for Jacob deGrom. Major League Baseball on Monday named the rookie righthander the co-National League Player of the Week along with Marlins closer Steve Cishek. DeGrom has shown no signs of being a rookie of late, limiting opponents to just two runs in his last 271/3 innings pitched over his last four stars. More so, he hasn�t given up a home run in his last 59 innings and is four homerless innings away from matching the Mets� franchise record set by Mark Bomback in 1980. DeGrom has posted a 0.66 ERA in his last four starts, all wins, proving to be one of the Mets� most reliable pitchers. But for Mets fans, seeing deGrom on the mound every five days for the rest of the season is unlikely. Before the Mets� recent road trip, general manager Sandy Alderson said the team would roughly cap deGrom�s innings at 185. To date, including his innings in the minors, deGrom has tossed 125.1. That�s roughly nine more starts before he hits it. And with the Mets (51-55) surging of late, it could be a tough pill to see deGrom shut down. So will Alderson worry about deGrom�s cap later in the season because of how the Mets are playing? �I think that�s one possibility,� Alderson said. �The other possibility is to maybe skip him a start when we find a right spot to do it. So I think we have a couple of different ways of approaching that. Right now, we don�t want to interrupt the flow he has going, the success he�s had.� http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/degrom-wins-nl-honors-article-1.1883102

Boston Braves - Sam Jethroe Boston Red Sox - Pumpsie Green Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie Robinson Chicago Cubs - Ernie Banks Chicago White Sox - Minnie Minoso Cincinnati Reds - Chuck Harmon Cincinnati Reds - Nino Escalera Cleveland Indians - Larry Doby Detroit Tigers - Ozzie Virgil, Sr. New York Giants - Monte Irvin New York Giants - Hank Thompson New York Yankees - Elston Howard Philadelphia Athletics - Bob trice Philadelphia Phillies - John Kennedy Pittsburgh Pirates - Curt Roberts St. Louis Browns - Hank Thompson St. Louis Cardinals - Tom Alston Washington Senators - Carlos Paula [fimg=255]http://nlbmmlb.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/thompson-browns.jpg[/fimg][fimg=243]http://nlbmmlb.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/escolaera.jpg[/fimg][fimg=254]http://padresteve.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/58-kennedy-john-f.jpg?w=750&h=1050[/fimg][fimg=372]http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000071/71986a_lg.jpeg[/fimg] Excluded Felix Mantilla Willie Mays

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: As is today, things in Detroit are complicated. Some people consider Ozzie Virgil Sr. to be the first black Tiger, others say it was Larry Doby. Virgil was Dominican, and you see sources calling him the first non-white Tiger, or first Tiger of color. The team through the years makes reference to both players. Detroit was the penultimate team to integrate. Is that counting Virgil or Doby -- or both. Either way.

Frayed Knot wrote: Some Tulo-facts so as to help you along * Contract runs thru 2020 plus an option for 2021: $20/per thru 2019; $14 mil in 2020; $15mil in 2021 or $4mil buyout. IOW, approx $123mil with the remainder of this year's money and assuming the buyout * Can only be traded once during the length of the contract, IOW acquiring team effectively inherits a N-T situation even though there's no clause now and he will not reach 10/5 rights until this deal is just about up I forgot to consider TT's contract when I first posted in this thread. On second thought, this ain't happening. I suppose.

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: As is today, things in Detroit are complicated. Some people consider Ozzie Virgil Sr. to be the first black Tiger, others say it was Larry Doby. Virgil was Dominican, and you see sources calling him the first non-white Tiger, or first Tiger of color. The team through the years makes reference to both players. Detroit was the penultimate team to integrate.

Boston Braves - Sam Jethroe Boston Red Sox - Pumpsie Green Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie Robinson Chicago Cubs - Ernie Banks Chicago White Sox - Minnie Minoso Cincinnati Reds Cincinnati Reds Cleveland Indians - Larry Doby Detroit Tigers - Ozzie Virgil, Sr. New York Giants - Monte Irvin New York Giants New York Yankees - Elston Howard Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates St. Louis Browns St. Louis Cardinals Washington Senators Excluded Felix Mantilla Willie Mays

Boston Braves Boston Red Sox - Pumpsie Green Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie Robinson Chicago Cubs - Ernie Banks Chicago White Sox Cincinnati Reds Cincinnati Reds Cleveland Indians - Larry Doby Detroit Tigers New York Giants - Monte Irvin New York Giants New York Yankees - Elston Howard Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates St. Louis Browns St. Louis Cardinals Washington Senators Excluded Felix Mantilla

This quiz gets tough real quickly. Not everyone can get to be Jackie Robinson.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I saw Torre hit two solo HR's against Candelaria in a 3-2 Met loss at Shea. Anyone remember what the next day's headline was in one of the tabloids? I was looking for Pirates 3, Torre 2 Thank you for playing.

I'd vote "It could happen but I'd be surprised", which is not an option. Do the Rockies need pitching? I haven't been following. But if the Rockies do, and really, who doesn't, the Mets have surplus young arms with high ceilings in such quantities that you'd think this was 1967 and Whitey Herzog was shaping the Mets development system. [fimg=444:v5y22i78]http://hunkereddowninbrooklyn.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/disraeli-gears.jpg[/fimg:v5y22i78]

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Boston Braves Boston Red Sox Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie Robinson Chicago Cubs - Ernie Banks Chicago White Sox Cincinnati Reds Cincinnati Reds Cleveland Indians - Larry Doby Detroit Tigers New York Giants New York Giants New York Yankees - Elston Howard Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates St. Louis Browns St. Louis Cardinals Washington Senators

One player per post. Identify the first black player to play for each of the following pre-expansion MLB teams, post Jackie Robinson. Some teams are listed twice because they were integrated by two players on the same day. Boston Braves Boston Red Sox Brooklyn Dodgers - Jackie Robinson Chicago Cubs Chicago White Sox Cincinnati Reds Cincinnati Reds Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers New York Giants New York Giants New York Yankees Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Athletics Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates St. Louis Browns St. Louis Cardinals Washington Senators

I'm looking for the back page headline.

I'll accept guesses in lieu of memories.

I saw Torre hit two solo HR's against Candelaria in a 3-2 Met loss at Shea. Anyone remember what the next day's headline was in one of the tabloids?

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TransMonk wrote: NL Pitcher of the Month for July?

Gwreck wrote: Off the top of my head, I'd guess that 10 deserving HOF'ers rarely, if even ever, retire after the same season. So the 10 votes per ballot rule is ample enough to prevent any logjams. I agree with the first part of this statement. The second part, I believe, is demonstrably untrue, given this past year's hall of fame ballot. If there are truly more than 10 deserving candidates, the surplus should gain admission the following season. Another problem with the voters is that a portion of them, as a rule, won't use all 10 of their votes - though this might be a variation on their theme of "tiered HOF'ers". I should've clarified what I meant by "logjam": Some HOF'ers might not get in right away, but the new 10 year eligibility rule shouldn't prevent a deserving candidate from gaining admission altogether. The problem is caused by the voters.

I think that 10 years worth of ballot eligibility is way more than enough time. Off the top of my head, I'd guess that 10 deserving HOF'ers rarely, if even ever, retire after the same season. So the 10 votes per ballot rule is ample enough to prevent any logjams. The problem is the voters, with their self imposed tiers of eligibility -- first year HOF'ers, second tier, etc. Also, any voter that needs more than 10 years time to figure out whether a candidate belongs probably isn't as knowledgeable as he or she ought to be. On the other hand, though, letting candidates remain on the ballot for 15 years instead of 10 isn't hurting anybody, is it? The Dook and Ralph, for example, each needed more than 10 years to gain entry, as FAFIF reminds, us, and those two are no blemish on the Hall.

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Ken Sanders looks like an extra from Night of the Living Dead. A less creepy-looking Sanders:

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