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It's a real good thing what the Mets did winning an extra two or three games down the stretch instead of getting to draft 4th next Summer. A real good thing. [fimg=666:2xv38nfu]https://thefirstward.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/mumy-twilight-zone.jpg[/fimg:2xv38nfu]

It's official. Mets Manager Terry Collins Resigns https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/10/01/ny-mets-terry-collins-will-resign-job-future

Still with the ugly scoreboard, Fred. Who's your decorator?

Lugo pulled after four innings, because ?? They've had him on a 75-ish pitch count limit lately (no point in pushing it so late in the year I guess) and he was already up close to 80 (74 actually) even though only 4 IP And he was leading off the next inning so they PH Lugo: "That fuckface, Terry. If it was Matt Harvey, he'd get another inning pitched. Matt would get that extra inning even if he showed up drunk and with a new Adriana Lima tattoo on his left cheek. Because Matt Harvey should have a multitude of wins."

He only needs his middle finger and he's got two of those on each hand what with Mr. Met having an even number of fingers on each hand.

Mr. Met can talk with his fingers.

Other than Casey, it ended bad for every Mets manager that ever was. I'd bet it woulda happened to Gil, too, if he didn't die before the end of his tenure.

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Run DMC--Walk this Way

metirish wrote: 12. David Wright. Mets icon, would make a great manager one day – if he’s interested. He is serious about his playing comeback, however. A great manager one day, based on what? You beat me to it. Yeah! Based on what?

Uh oh. Terry Collins: No plans to retire, would like to stay with Mets Excerpt: New York Mets manager Terry Collins, whose contract expires after this season, has no plans to consider retirement and would like to stay with the team. "I never said anything that I was going to retire," Collins told The Record on Tuesday. "I always wanted to work until I was 70. ... I can put something to rest: I'm not going to go home and go fishing. Whatever anybody thinks about if I'm going to be here or not, I can't answer that. But I'm going to be doing something." http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20833047/terry-collins-no-plans-retire-stay-new-york-mets

I never said anything about tanking. I'd just rather the Mets lose than win, which I think is indisputably the smarter play, if not the most ethical if the Mets really are considering tanking. I'd rather the Mets draft 4th or 5th instead of 7th or 8th. And what I'm hoping for wouldn't get me on the subway anyways being that I have no control whatsoever over what's gonna happen no matter how many times I roll my forearms Bo-style or whatever other superstitions I drag out in support of the cause. It's not as if the Mets are gonna lose the rest of the way till season's end all because they read my posts.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oh, I'm not crying over the losses, and I certainly wouldn't rend any giveaway tees over sliding to the fifth overall pick or so (we're currently hovering at six). But sometimes it's viscerally nice to get a moment of respite from them, especially one with a little joie de boule on it, and flecked with moments of promise/gumption from the kinder. Yeah but you won't remember any of those moments by next season. Another Darryl Strawberry in a Mets uniform, you'll remember for the rest of your life. So will your kids.

Edgy MD wrote: Or Creedence's cover of Dale Hawkins' "Susie Q," or their cover of Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "I Put a Spell on You." But I'm guessing that BML is recognizing some tell-tale snippet of cover art. No cover art recognition. True story: This morning, in that period when I woke up from sleep but was in that semi-coma like zombie state where I was too awake to sleep anymore but still too tired to get out of bed, my thoughts turned to that post and that CCR cover and I thought to myself that the cover could well be I Put a Spell or Suzie Q, too.

Aretha - Respect The Kingsmen - Louie, Louie Jimi - Watchtower The Byrds - Turn, Turn, Turn Janis - Me and Bobby or Ball & Chain or Piece of.... Animals - House of the Rising Led Zeppelin - Babe, I'm Gonna ....

Studying the book cover for clues reveals that there'll be a section on CCR's cover of Marvin Gaye's Grapevine.

I don't know that book actually. And if anyone has a new rock book suggestion let me know. So new, it's not out yet..... [fimg=333]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51IHfli04eL.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=222]https://www.newyorker.com/images/svg/tny-logo.svg[/fimg] The Story Behind Devo’s Iconic Cover of the Rolling Stones’ “Satisfaction” By Ray Padgett September 25, 2017 One afternoon in 1978, Mark Mothersbaugh and Gerald Casale—the two prime architects of the band Devo—were fidgeting in Peter Rudge’s office, near the Warwick Hotel, in Manhattan, with Mick Jagger. Rudge was the Rolling Stones’ manager, and Devo had recorded an odd cover of the band’s hit “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction”—so odd that their label said they needed Jagger’s blessing to release it. Mothersbaugh put the tape in a boom box and pressed Play. As the sounds of the cover filled the room, Jagger sat stone-faced. What he was hearing didn’t sound much like the “Satisfaction” he’d written. Keith Richards’s iconic riff was gone, and the original melody was nowhere to be found. Was this a homage, Mick must have wondered, or were they mocking him? “He was just looking down at the floor swirling his glass of red wine,” Casale recently remembered, adding, “He didn’t even have shoes on, just socks and some velour pants. I don’t know what his habits were then, but this was early afternoon and it looked like he had just gotten up.” For thirty seconds or so, the men sat in silence, listening to the weird robo-funk coming from the boom box. Then something changed. “He suddenly stood up and started dancing around on this Afghan rug in front of the fireplace,” Casale said, of Jagger, “the sort of rooster-man dance he used to do, and saying”—he impersonated Jagger’s accent—“‘I like it, I like it.’ Mark and I lit up, big smiles on our faces, like in ‘Wayne’s World’: ‘We’re not worthy!’ To see your icon that you grew up admiring, that you had seen in concert, dancing around like Mick Jagger being Mick Jagger. It was unbelievable.” “We were less than nothing,” Mothersbaugh said. “We were just these artists that nobody had ever heard of, from Akron, Ohio.” The description is an exaggeration, but only a small one. After forming, in 1972, Devo had spent the subsequent half decade building up a huge fan base in the Midwest, but had not made a dent beyond. To get gigs, they would lie to clubs and say they were a Top Forty covers band. Once promoters figured out that they were not, they were rarely invited back. One impediment to the band’s wider success was that, as far as Devo was concerned, Devo wasn’t a band at all but, rather, an art project, created to advance Casale’s theory of “de-evolution,” the concept that instead of evolving, society was in fact regressing (“de-evolving”) as humans embraced their baser instincts. Inspired by the Dadaists and the Italian Futurists, Devo’s members were also creating satirical visual art, writing treatises, and filming short videos. The first of those videos included the band’s first-ever cover, of Johnny Rivers’s spy-show hit “Secret Agent Man,” in which the band interspersed their grainy performance with decidedly odd footage of two people in monkey masks spanking a housewife. Devo’s version of that song provided a template for “Satisfaction.” It was a pop hit everyone knew, radically deconstructed. Devo’s secret agent was “more like a janitor than a gigolo,” as Mothersbaugh put it. They released their cover on a nine-minute film called “The Truth About De-Evolution,” which they would screen before gigs. The band used to rehearse in their practice space outside of Akron, in an abandoned garage behind a car wash. They had no heat and would rehearse wearing winter coats and gloves with the fingers cut off, so that they could play their guitar strings. One January afternoon in 1977, Casale’s brother Bob came up with a guitar line, the robotic seven-note opening that would replace the original “Satisfaction” riff. The drummer Alan Myers joined in with a typically bizarre Devo beat. “It sounded like some kind of mutated devolved reggae,” Casale said, of the rhythm. “I started laughing, and I came up with a bass part that I thought was a conceptual reggae part. We just kept playing it, and Mark just started singing.” The song Mothersbaugh sang wasn’t “Satisfaction” but “Paint It Black.” (Mothersbaugh was a huge Stones fan.) But, as the band futzed around, they couldn’t get the lyrics to match their jerky rhythm. Then, Casale recalled, “Mark started singing ‘(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction’ to our jam, and that did it.” The band soon realized that “Satisfaction” offered an ideal vehicle to bring their de-evolution philosophy to the masses. They weren’t covering the song, they would say; they were “correcting” it. “I think those are some of the most amazing lyrics that were ever written in rock and roll,” Mothersbaugh said, “dealing with conspicuous consumption and the stupidity of capitalism and sexual frustration all in one song. It pretty much encapsulated what was going on with kids at that time, much more than any of the hippie songs, as far as I was concerned.” The more Devo played the song, the more it evolved—or devolved. Early videos show a version much slower than it would become—a mid-tempo rumble that wore out its welcome by the end. It was interesting conceptually, and no doubt a fun surprise for concertgoers, but not necessarily something you’d want to listen to repeatedly. “The versions that we were doing of all our songs in the early days were very slow and more bluesy, like Captain Beefheart material,” Mothersbaugh recalled. “We started off at Akron speed,” Casale joked. “But then, once we went to New York and saw the amazing energy of the Ramones and the Damned, it just put a fire under us.” The quintet started getting some music-industry interest. David Bowie even introduced the group onstage, at one of their 1977 New York shows, calling them “the band of the future.” Their first single, “Mongoloid,” released earlier that same year, had got little buzz; now, the band decided to capitalize on its momentum by recording “Satisfaction” as their second single, releasing it on their own label. Soon after, as labels were bidding over the Ohio eccentrics, the band decamped to Germany, to record their début album with the producer Brian Eno and with Bowie, who wanted to help. Warner Bros. signed the band. From the start, there was tension during the recording sessions. “They were a terrifying group of people to work with because they were so unable to experiment,” Eno later said. “When they turned up to do this record in Germany, they brought a big chest of recordings they’d already done of these same songs. We’d be sitting there working, and suddenly Mark Mothersbaugh would be in the chest to retrieve some three-year-old tape, put it on, and say, ‘Right, we want the snare drum to sound like that.’ I hate that kind of work.” “Our goal was to just try and make it as faithful to what we were doing as we could,” Mothersbaugh recalled. “But Brian and David added on extra harmony vocals, and they put in synth parts. When we weren’t in the studio, Eno would go in on his own and record extra parts over the top of our songs. Most always, we took all the stuff out that they did.” In the end, the song basically emerged unchanged from Devo’s prior recording. It’s a little unclear why Warner, once they learned that Devo wanted to include “Satisfaction” on their début album, demanded that Devo get it approved by Jagger’s people. Cover songs don’t need anyone’s approval: you can cover anything you want as long as you pay the original copyright holder and don’t change the words. Casale thinks Warner may have been worried that their cover was so different that it might have been considered satire—a separate legal entity for which one needs permission. (Devo had run into a similar issue covering “Secret Agent Man,” and ended up using a sneaky runaround to get permission from his Japanese publisher since Rivers himself refused.) Warner also mentioned in a meeting with Devo that they had a five-thousand-dollar promotional budget. When the band asked what that would go toward, Warner suggested cardboard cutouts of the band for record stores. Mothersbaugh and Casale had a counter-offer: that Warner give them the money to make a music video. At the time, the idea of using video as its own creative medium to promote music was novel. “They thought we were crazy,” Mothersbaugh recalled. The first thing the band did with that five thousand dollars was get a wardrobe for the video. But they didn't want to look like rock stars—they wanted to look like anything but. “We didn’t want to be lumped in with rock and roll, and we thought the way people dressed in rock and roll was stupid,” Mothersbaugh said. “We were looking for something more interesting and more theatrical and more dramatic. What can we do to let people know we’re not the same?” For the better part of a year, Casale had worked by day designing a sales catalogue for a janitorial-supply company. Often, he would bring home the brochures for inspiration, searching for the ugliest janitorial outfits he could find. It was in one of these catalogues that he found the yellow waste-disposal suits that the band decided to wear in the video. “The yellow suits were great, because they had this look that was totally the opposite of something that hugged your balls or your butt, or showed off your physique in any way,” Mothersbaugh said. “It was kind of the opposite: they hid us.” Devo rented out an Akron theatre to perform the song in, filmed the video on the cheap, and got it ready for its big début. When MTV launched, in 1981, very few bands had videos ready for the network to play. As a result, Devo’s “Satisfaction” video earned endless rotations. But the band’s big break came when they performed the song on “Saturday Night Live,” wearing the suits and pitch-black sunglasses, and doing the same jerky robo-motions, as in the video. (At the beginning of the performance, you can briefly hear Mothersbaugh play Keith Richards’s original “Satisfaction” riff, before segueing into his own.) A little-known band like Devo would not ordinarily merit consideration on “S.N.L.” but the band’s manager dangled the possibility of a performance by Neil Young, whom he also represented, over the television producers’ heads to persuade them to book Devo. People at home watching weird comedy on a Saturday night were, as it turned out, exactly Devo’s target demographic. “Overnight, we went from being this little club band to having to rebook our upcoming tour to larger venues,” Casale said. Without “Satisfaction,” Devo might not have had a career. Four decades and many hits later, Mothersbaugh still calls it “the quintessential Devo tune” and says that none of that success would have happened without that meeting with Mick Jagger: “When I walk out in front of a car later today, not paying attention to traffic, and get squashed like a bug, and I’m watching all the good moments of my life zip by, I know that one will appear a couple of times.” This piece was adapted from “Cover Me: The Stories Behind the Greatest Cover Songs of All Time,” by Ray Padgett, which is out October 3rd from Sterling Publishing. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-story-behind-devos-iconic-cover-of-the-rolling-stones-satisfaction Official Video jadvt7CbH1o Live on SNL (1978) including stylized opening Keith Richards style Satisfaction riff WdkwCWbVJ8Y Early live slow version jAGOgMxUHKM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Breaks the Tai. Nice ending.... I thought you were rooting for the draft pick? Ten years from now, there won't be more than two posters here who'll be able to tell you with 100% certainty, how many games the Mets won this dreadful season. On the other hand, many experts think that there are four or five amateurs who are superstuds and good enough to be drafted first overall in next year's amateur baseball draft.

41Forever wrote: Murph is a nice guy. But he sure does kill us. No one was better positioned than the Mets to determine whether Murphy's increased production beginning in mid-2015 was a random fluke or permanent and long-lasting based on structural changes to his hitting approach. ____________________ But you can get a save for pitching the final 6 or 7 innings of a game too, not just the final 2 or 3. Now you can't get a Win AND a Save so Harvey's theoretical 'W' would take precedence over an 'S' but, had he come in with a lead and then left without it, there's nothing stopping that from being a 'BS' 1-- Yes, but wouldn't that have to be an extra inning game? Otherwise, a six or seven inning save means a two or three inning win for the starting pitcher, which isn't allowed. Here's a strange fact pattern. The starter pitches one inning. The next pitcher pitches just the second inning and leaves with a one run lead. The next reliever pitches to game's end. There is no more scoring after the second inning. In that situation, the official scorer can award the second pitcher with the Win and the third pitcher (7 IP's) with the save. Of course, the scorer should award the seven inning pitcher with the Win, but technically, you could have a seven inning save in a nine inning game here. 2 -- But Harvey can't get the Save no matter what because he'd have to pitch to game's end for the Save, and Syndergaard isn't eligible for the Win. As expected, Harvey wasn't charged with a Blown Save. A pitcher can't blow a Save unless there's some other pitcher's Win to protect, which Syndergaard didn't qualify for. The best way to summarize our discussion of last night is, I think, as follows: If the starting pitcher isn't eligible for the Win because he pitched less than five innings, then the next pitcher in can never be charged with a Blown Save (or awarded a Save): in that instance, however, the third pitcher in is eligible for a Save/Blown Save. It's theoretically possible for a pitcher entering the first inning to be awarded/charged with a Save/Blown Save. He'd have to be at least the third pitcher appearing for his team in that game, though.

Edgy MD wrote: Well, we just got Murphed. I gotta tell ya, I love the Murph. Still.

Frayed Knot wrote: But you can get a save for pitching the final 6 or 7 innings of a game too, not just the final 2 or 3. Now you can't get a Win AND a Save so Harvey's theoretical 'W' would take precedence over an 'S' but, had he come in with a lead and then left without it, there's nothing stopping that from being a 'BS' 1-- Yes, but wouldn't that have to be an extra inning game? Otherwise, a six or seven inning save means a two or three inning win for the starting pitcher, which isn't allowed. Here's a strange fact pattern. The starter pitches one inning. The next pitcher pitches just the second inning and leaves with a one run lead. The next reliever pitches to game's end. There is no more scoring after the second inning. In that situation, the official scorer can award the second pitcher with the Win and the third pitcher (7 IP's) with the save. Of course, the scorer should award the seven inning pitcher with the Win, but technically, you could have a seven inning save in a nine inning game here. 2 -- But Harvey can't get the Save no matter what because he'd have to pitch to game's end for the Save, and Syndergaard isn't eligible for the Win.

Frayed Knot wrote: I mean the whole concept of the 'Blown Save' is flawed anyway - so who really cares? It matter only to "closers" as we roughly define that job but the BS gets hung on middle relievers all the time, guys who can only blow the save of get 'credit' for the even less meaningful 'Hold'. The set-up types get hung with BS all the time but rarely stick around long enough to get a Save itself to balance those out. They may not stick around long enough for the Save, but they'd qualify for the Save if left to pitch to game's end. And it's the qualifying for the Save that is required for BS eligiblity. You can't assume that they're in only for a Hold even if true.

Frayed Knot wrote: I have however seen BS assigned to relievers who worked lost leads as early as the 4th inning. If this is true, it's inconsistent and irreconcilable with MLB's definition of its own rule. Unless the rule has since changed. Was there ever a time during the Save era when a starter pitching just three innings could be credited with a Win?

It's easier to just look this stuff up. http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/blown-save Blown Save (BS) Definition A blown save occurs when a relief pitcher enters a game in a save situation, but allows the tying run to score. The run does not have to be charged to that pitcher. If a reliever enters with a man already on third base, and he allows that runner to score the tying run, he is charged with a blown save. Although many blown saves occur in the ninth inning or later, they aren't limited to the ninth inning. If a pitcher enters in the eighth inning and surrenders the tying run in a save situation, he is given a blown save -- regardless of whether he pitches the ninth. A pitcher can still receive either a win or a loss (or a no-decision) after recording a blown save, depending on the ensuing results. Blown saves are used as a tool to evaluate the effectiveness of a closer. After all, it is a closer's job not to let the tying run score. Therefore, closers who have a high rate of blown saves per save attempt typically aren't doing their jobs very well. However, not all blown saves are created equal -- after all, entering with a three-run lead in the ninth and entering with a one-run lead and a man on third in the eighth are both considered save situations. It's important to remember this when assessing closers based on their blown saves. Origin Blown saves were introduced as a statistic in 1988 as a counterbalance for the statistic "saves."

Frayed Knot wrote: By the crude instrument which is the Blown Save, Harvey came in with a lead and didn't protect it, ergo 'BS' So if the visiting team scores a run in the first, and the visiting pitcher then gives up three runs in the bottom of the first, does the starting visiting pitcher get credited with a blown save? OE -- Better yet, I thought a pitcher had to be pitching in a save or potential save situation to qualify for a blown save.