Doc on Tom: https://thechangeup.substack.com/p/dwight-gooden-remembers-tom-seaverhttps://thechangeup.substack.com/p/dwight-gooden-remembers-tom-seaver Gary Phillips: I know this is a big loss for the Mets family. What did Tom Seaver mean to you and how did your relationship with him evolve over the years? Dwight Gooden: Tom was like a mentor. Him and Nolan Ryan were my two childhood idols... I watched a lot of their games with my dad and I remember being in the backyard pretending to be either Nolan Ryan or Tom Seaver playing against my nephew, Gary Sheffield. We grew up in the same house. We used to pitch against each other, and we would argue who's going to be Tom Seaver that particular day, who was going to be Nolan Ryan. When I got to meet Tom, we had great conversations. We loved talking about pitching, sequences, how we set hitters up... What are you doing when there's no season or it's not spring training to make yourself better? We talked a lot about family, health, things that matter... He was just a great guy all around. Everyone knew he was a great baseball pitcher, but to me, he was an even better person. He was always in a good mood, always ready to talk baseball, always upbeat. GP: You said in your statement to the Mets that Seaver was one of the first people to call you after you won your Cy Young award in 1985. What do you remember about that phone call? DG: He just congratulated me and said, "Welcome to the club." He said, "Make sure when the league comes after you... just be prepared. Don't try to top the season you had. Just try to duplicate the season you had and you'll be fine." He was just always, always upbeat and a genuine guy. GP: Seaver played his last game for the Mets the year before your rookie season, so you guys never got to be teammates at the big league level. Did your paths ever cross when you were a Mets minor leaguer? DG: I came to New York a little bit in 1983 for an exhibition game where we played the Padres' A-ball club and, before one of the games, we talked. We always talked about what it would have been like to play together. For me, that would have been an absolute dream come true. As a kid, he was my idol. Just the knowledge he had. He always kidded, "With the knowledge I have and the talent you have, we put that together, man who knows where it can get you!" But we always had a lot of good talks. He tried to make a comeback [in 1987]... It didn't go too well and he ended up retiring. I remember in 1986 he was on the Red Sox during the World Series, but it didn't seem right. It just felt like he was supposed to be in our dugout. GP: That first time meeting him in '83, at that point he's already a World Series champion, he's “The Franchise,” he's established as this great Mets player. And you're this up and coming pitcher with high hopes. What was that moment like for young Dwight Gooden? DG: For me it was surreal… I told him, "Man, it's a pleasure to meet you." It was like being a little kid talking to your idol. I couldn't believe it. He said, "I'd like to see you up here real soon" and be teammates. That was always the goal. He said, "keep working hard, don't take no starts for granted and you'll be fine." I was listening to him talk and I was in awe. I couldn't wait to get back to my hotel to call my friends and tell them, "You're not going believe it! I had a conversation with Tom Seaver!" All my friends knew how much I loved him.