Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 You're still Sandy Alderson. Less than fully edified by the list of candidates provide by John Ricco, you place a call to Special Assistant to the General Manager J.P. Ricciardi. "Jape," you say,"I need a manager, an experienced manager, and my list so far is missing a certain sparkle. I doesn't light up the room, Jape! Get me, I dunno, 17 names. Seventeen. Can you do that for me, Jape?"Not 10 minutes later, the fax machine starts buzzing, because you're Sandy, and you do things your own way and still see some value in faxes. And what do you know, but that efficiency expert Ricciardi has sent you the names of these 17 guys. Which four do you call in for an interview? MgrAgeTeam(s)YrsFromToWLW-L%TiesG > .500GW PostL PostW-L% PostBest FinWrst FinAv RkPlyof AppWS wonPenn WonASGMets Connection[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/2/21414447_manager.jpg[/fimg]Brad Ausmus49DET420142017313331.4860-1864403.000163.31000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/f/fc820bad_manager.jpg[/fimg]Bo Porter45HOU220132014110190.3670-8030000555.00000From Newark, NJ.[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/18ed0c6b_davis.jpg[/fimg]Davey Johnson75NYM, CIN, BAL, LAD, WAS171984201313721071.562230124452526.490151.96111Made last out of 1969 World Series for Baltimore; managed and instructed in Mets minor leagues, 1981-1983; managed Mets 1984-1990[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/e/e5e40609_manager.jpg[/fimg]John McLaren66SEA, WSH3200720117089.4400-1915900242.90000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/562ec88e_davis.jpg[/fimg]Edwin Rodriguez57FLA2201020117885.4790-716300353.90000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/5ec76f54_davis.jpg[/fimg]Phil Garner68MIL, DET, HOU15199220079851054.4831-6920401313.500273.82011[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0383da93_davis.jpg[/fimg]Jerry Narron62TEX, CIN520012007291341.4601-5063300364.20000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0d5a228f_davis.jpg[/fimg]Jeff Torborg76CLE, CWS, NYM, MON1119772003634718.4690-84135200274.60000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/d/d6cb87c6_davis.jpg[/fimg]Davey Lopes72MIL320002002144195.4251-5134000363.60000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/4/4a419414_manager.jpg[/fimg]Ray Miller72MIN, BAL419851999266297.4720-3156300464.50000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/f/f36bcb3d_davis.jpg[/fimg]Tim Johnson68TOR1199819988874.54311416300333.00000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/1c1da1fc_davis.jpg[/fimg]Tom Runnells62MON2199119926881.4560-1314900265.00000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/2/22bca597_davis.jpg[/fimg]Mike Cubbage67NYM11991199134.4290-1700555.00000Mets minor leaguer, 1982; Mets player, 1981; Mets third-base coach, 1990-1996; Mets minor league manager, 1983-1989; Mets interim manager, 1991.[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/b/b136e498_davis.jpg[/fimg]Moose Stubing80CAL11988198808.0000-8800444.00000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/c/ccd38469_davis.jpg[/fimg]John Felske75PHA319851987190194.4950-438400253.60000[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/6/61b09409_davis.jpg[/fimg]Maury Wills85SEA2198019812656.3171-308300676.70000Played minor league ball for the Brooklyn Dodgers.[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/b/b285c856_davis.jpg[/fimg]Jim Marshall86CHC, OAK419741979229326.4130-9755500475.70000Original 1962 Mets player.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 That's some slim pickins. I thought Maury passed away several years ago. (oops, wrong thread...)
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 4, 2017 Author Posted October 4, 2017 Still living and looks more or less healthy and spry in recent years.You want to talk to a guy who'll make you scratch your head, talk to Maury.The Wikipedia wrote:After retiring, Wills spent time as a baseball analyst at NBC from 1973 through 1977. He also managed in the Mexican Pacific League—a winter league—for four seasons, during which time he led the Naranjeros de Hermosillo to the 1970–71 season league championship. Wills let it be known he felt qualified to pilot a big-league club. In his book, How To Steal A Pennant, Wills claimed he could take any last-place club and make them champions within four years. The San Francisco Giants allegedly offered him a one-year deal, but Wills turned them down. Finally, in 1980, the Seattle Mariners fired Darrell Johnson and gave Wills the reins.Wills' tenure was an unmitigated disaster. Baseball writer Rob Neyer, in his Big Book of Baseball Blunders criticized Wills for "the variety and frequency of [his] mistakes" as manager, calling them "unparalleled." In a short interview appearing in the June 5, 2006 issue of Newsweek, Neyer said, "It wasn't just that Wills couldn't do the in-game stuff. Wills's inability to communicate with his players really sets him apart. He said he was going to make his second baseman, Julio Cruz, his permanent shortstop. Twenty-four hours later he was back at second base. As far as a guy who put in some real time (as a manager), I don't think there's been anyone close to Wills."According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer's Steve Rudman, Wills made a number of gaffes. He called for a relief pitcher although there was nobody warming up in the bullpen, held up another game for 10 minutes while looking for a pinch-hitter and even left a spring-training game in the sixth inning to fly to California.The most celebrated incident of Wills' tenure as manager occurred on April 25, 1981. He ordered the Mariners' grounds crew to make the batter's boxes one foot longer than regulation. The extra foot was in the direction of the mound. However, Oakland Athletics manager Billy Martin noticed something was amiss and asked plate umpire Bill Kunkel to investigate. Under questioning from Kunkel, the Mariners' head groundskeeper admitted Wills had ordered the change. Wills claimed he was trying to help his players stay in the box. However, Martin suspected that given the large number of breaking-ball pitchers on the A's staff, Wills wanted to give his players an advantage. The American League suspended Wills for two games and fined him $500. American League umpiring supervisor Dick Butler likened Wills' actions to setting the bases 88 feet apart instead of 90 feet.After leading Seattle to a 20-38 mark to end the 1980 season, new owner George Argyros fired Wills on May 6, 1981 with the M's deep in last place at 6-18. This gave him a career record of 26-56 for a winning percentage of .317, one of the worst ever for a non-interim manager. Years later, Wills admitted he probably should have gotten some seasoning as a minor-league manager prior to being hired in Seattle.However, the aforementioned Julio Cruz, himself an accomplished base stealer, credited Wills for teaching him how to steal second base against a left-handed pitcher.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 I may not have thought about Jeff Torborg in I don't know how many years......
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 4, 2017 Author Posted October 4, 2017 Special thanks to whoever voted for bringing in Moose Stubing and giving him a half a chance to get off the schneid.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 That was me. I'd have him in for an interview anyway
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 4, 2017 Author Posted October 4, 2017 I went for Johnson (natch), Cubbage (my loyalty knows no bounds), Garner (who doesn't need a guy named "Scrap Iron" keeping a group of young men on the same page?), and Lopes (bunting school!).But I may toss Scraps aside for Moose.OE: Hmmm ... I guess Torborg suggests my loyalty does have it's limits.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 5, 2017 Author Posted October 5, 2017 Ashie62 wrote:None of the above.Nothing like the guy who doesn't want to play but wants everybody to hear how he doesn't want to play.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't.Gimme Cubbage, Garner, and Big Green Brad Ausmus. Although this Torborg person sounds interesting...
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 5, 2017 Author Posted October 5, 2017 LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't.I had him first.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 metirish wrote:I may not have thought about Jeff Torborg in I don't know how many years......I had purged him from my memory.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 Lefty Specialist wrote:metirish wrote:I may not have thought about Jeff Torborg in I don't know how many years......I had purged him from my memory.2003 since he managed in the MLB , I didn't know until now he has Parkinson's ( according to his Wiki)
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 5, 2017 Author Posted October 5, 2017 Weird tenure in Florida where he brought in his son, who had been wrestling professionally in a secondary circuit, to join the training staff.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted October 5, 2017 Author Posted October 5, 2017 Edgy MD wrote:LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't.I had him first.Maybe you thought I meant Tim Johnson, whose main claim to fame was getting caught using fake stories of Vietnam combat to rally his Blue Jays players.I hate to see the downfall of bullshitters, but man.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 Man, it's gonna be a looooooooooong offseason.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Edgy MD wrote:Edgy MD wrote:LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't.I had him first.Maybe you thought I meant Tim Johnson, whose main claim to fame was getting caught using fake stories of Vietnam combat to rally his Blue Jays players.I hate to see the downfall of bullshitters, but man.Whoopsie.
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