Crawling from the Wreckage: ERA Edition

[Edgy MD]

A thread to chronicle the Mets' step-by-step ascent from the murky bottom of the ERA standings. And the bottom of the ERA+ standings too.

Phillie, you're going down.

Check out that ERA+ for the Rockies.

RK	TEAM	ERA	ERA+
1	LAD	3.31	124
2	STL	3.60	116
3	ARI	3.79	123
4	CHC	3.91	107
T5	PIT	4.11	105
T5	MIL	4.11	110
7	COL	4.19	123
8	SFG	4.39	95
9	WSN	4.43	98
10	CIN	4.48	100
11	MIA	4.58	91
12	SDP	4.61	90
13	ATL	4.85	91
14	PHI	4.92	88
15	NYM	5.13	82

[Frayed Knot]

Six or seven shutouts in a row and I think we could rocket up to 12th or 13th place in no time.
Well, 13th anyway.

[Edgy MD]

One step at a time, man.

[Chad ochoseis]

That's a yuge park adjustment for Coors. Nearly the same ERA+ as LA, but an 0.88 difference in ERA.

[Guest cooby]

Frayed Knot wrote: Six or seven shutouts in a row and I think we could rocket up to 12th or 13th place in no time. Well, 13th anyway.

Lol. On so many levels

[Edgy MD]

They almost got the ERA below 5.00 tonight.

Such little faith. The Braves and Phils are totally within striking distance.

13) ATL 4.833429064
14) PHI 4.856819567
15) NYM 5.000958038

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Chad Ochoseis wrote: That's a yuge park adjustment for Coors. Nearly the same ERA+ as LA, but an 0.88 difference in ERA.

It's also the park adjustment for Dodger Stadium coming into play, methinks.

[Frayed Knot]

Well this project sure took a hit after Friday's progress.

[Edgy MD]

Hear those footsteps, San Diego? The Mets should be overtaking you any day now.

Any day now.

Rank	Tm	ERA
1	LAD	3.23
2	ARI	3.58
3	STL	3.60
4	CHC	3.92
5	COL	4.04
6	WSN	4.15
7	PIT	4.20
8	MIL	4.23
	LgAvg	4.25
9	SFG	4.28
10	CIN	4.62
11	ATL	4.64
12	PHI	4.76
13	MIA	4.80
14	SDP	4.81
15	NYM	4.99

Rank	Tm	ERA+
1	ARI	129
2	LAD	126
3	COL	124
4	STL	116
5	CHC	107
6	MIL	104
7	WSN	103
8	PIT	102
	LgAvg	102
9	SFG	97
10	CIN	96
11	ATL	95
12	PHI	89
13	MIA	86
14	SDP	86
15	NYM	83

[Edgy MD]

Oh, mercy! We're soo close to the top of the basement stairs we can almost smell fresh air! We can almost see natural light!

Special thanks to the Blue Jays and Troy Tulowitzki for dropping 17 on the Reds yesterday.

RK	Tm	ERA
1	LAD	3.21
2	ARI	3.69
3	STL	3.72
4	CHC	4.06
5	COL	4.07
6	WSN	4.08
7	SFG	4.20
8	PIT	4.23
9	MIL	4.25
	LgAvg	4.26
10	ATL	4.65
11	MIA	4.67
12	SDP	4.72
13	PHI	4.82
14	CIN	4.847
15	NYM	4.852

RK	Tm	ERA+
1	LAD	127
2	ARI	126
3	COL	123
4	STL	113
5	CHC	104
6	WSN	104
7	MIL	104
8	PIT	102
	LgAvg	101
9	SFG	99
10	ATL	95
11	CIN	91
12	PHI	89
13	MIA	88
14	SDP	88
15	NYM	87

[Frayed Knot]

What would help the team ERA of course would be for some of the individuals to get their personal ERA down from above or near the double digits mark.
Maybe an ERA north of 8.00 is the pitcher's equivalent to the 'Mendoza Line' or the dreaded 'Interstate' BA

If so then it would be nice to see Mr. Pill, currently at 13.50 thru only 2/3 of an inning, get below that threshold starting tonight.
Some of the other '8 and Up' crew may not get their chance anytime soon, or ever:
Josh Smoker = 8.00
Rafael Montero = 8.23
Tommy Milone = 10.50
Neil Ramirez = 11.57
Adam Wilk = 12.27
Sean Gilmartin = 13.50
Kevin Plawecki = 18.00

Knocking on the door are Hansel Robles and his inflated 6.23. Robles, btw, 2 outings in Vegas so far, 2 GF including 1 Save, 2 IP, 10 Batters Faced, 2 Hits, 2 BBs, 3 K, 0 Runs
Robert Gsellman lowered his to a paltry 5.75 with Monday's outing, while Fernando Salas currently sits at 5.56



btw, with the team ERA now at 4.85, the starting ERA [u:2fh7li3s]AND[/u:2fh7li3s] the Reliever's ERA are both right at 4.85
MLB-wide, the bullpen ERA is about 0.33 R/G below that of the starters, and traditionally that's about a normal split.

[Edgy MD]

We actually had a thread once on where the Mendoza line was for pitchers, and we settled on a 6.50 ERA.

[Edgy MD]

The numbers are still coming in from across North America, but it looks like the Mets are starting to knock some teams off!

12) San Diego Padres: 4.72
13) =#002D70]New York Mets: 4.83
14) =#BA0C2E]Philadelphia Phillies: 4.84
15) =#BA0C2F]Cincinnati Reds: 4.88

Full report tomorrow morn!

[Edgy MD]

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RK	Tm	ERA		RK	Tm	ERA+
1	LAD	3.22		1	ARI	128
2	ARI	3.62		2	LAD	122
3	STL	3.81		3	COL	120
4	WSN	4.06		4	STL	103
5	CHC	4.11		5	CHC	102
6	COL	4.18		6	WSN	97
T7	SFG	4.21		T7	SFG	93
T7	PIT	4.21		T7	PIT	93
9	MIL	4.25		T7	MIL	93
	=#BF0000]LgAvg	=#FF0000]4.26		10	CIN	91
10	ATL	4.60			=#BF0000]LgAvg	=#FF0000]90
11	MIA	4.61		11	MIA	89
12	SDP	4.67		12	ATL	86
13	NYM	4.76		T13	NYM	83
14	PHI	4.84		T13	SDP	83
15	CIN	4.88		15	PHI	81

[Frayed Knot]

WE'RE NUBMER 13!!
WE'RE NUMBER 13!!



btw, Philly (10 earned vs Miami) and Cincy (5 ER in 8 IP vs TOR) have already lost today so their pitching stats aren't getting any better in tomorrow's update either.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

I guess the Mets couldn't stand prosperity. The last 2 beat downs have tacked on to the team ERA.

The Mets have surrendered 285 runs (not all earned mind you) on the season. The most in MLB. Even the with the DH rule, all the AL teams have allowed fewer runs than the Mets.

[Edgy MD]

Crawling is hard. Especially when there's wreckage.

[Frayed Knot]

Back up to 13th place in both ERA and ERA+ and gaining on still others -- four straight games of allowing 3, 3, 1, 1 runs will do wonderful things to your pitching stats.

And look at our starters over the last four games (Wheeler, Harvey, Gsellman, Matz): 25.2 IP, [u:2yv2k8g5]2 ER[/u:2yv2k8g5] on 19 + 8 walks, 19 Ks

Now they just need to: a) keep that up, and get deGrom straightened out so he can join the party

[Edgy MD]

Why, hello, 12th or 13th most effective pitching staff in the league!

RK	Tm	ERA		RK	Tm	ERA+
1	LAD	3.21		1	ARI	131
2	ARI	3.58		2	LAD	128
3	STL	3.93		3	COL	125
4	WSN	3.95		4	WSN	108
5	COL	4.02		5	MIL	107
6	CHC	4.11		6	STL	106
7	MIL	4.17		7	CHC	103
8	SFG	4.23			LgAvg	101
	LgAvg	4.28		8	SFG	98
9	PIT	4.40		T9	PIT	97
10	ATL	4.52		T9	ATL	97
11	MIA	4.54		11	CIN	91
12	NYM	4.76		12	MIA	90
13	CIN	4.86		13	NYM	89
14	PHI	5.02		14	PHI	85
15	SDP	5.02		15	SDP	83

Check your rearview, Miami!

[Edgy MD]

Seemingly alternating two well pitched games with one blowup, the Mets are still not moving up as fast as we'd like. This is a shame, because Pittsburgh is showing it can be done. And Cincinnati is sure showing a team can still plummet in the rankings.

Two starters (deGrom, Matz) are pitching consistently well. That's something. Wheeler, Lugo, and Montero are welcome to join them at any time.

RK	Tm	ERA		RK	Tm	ERA+
1	LAD	3.20		1	ARI	138
2	ARI	3.39		2	LAD	132
3	STL	4.00		3	COL	113
4	CHC	4.06		T4	STL	106
5	WSN	4.14		T4	MIL	106
6	MIL	4.19		T6	CHC	105
7	PIT	4.30		T6	WSN	105
	LgAvg	4.33		7	PIT	102
8	COL	4.49		8	LgAvg	101
9	MIA	4.50		9	ATL	97
10	ATL	4.54		10	MIA	93
11	SFG	4.63		T11	SFG	90
12	SDP	4.72		T11	SDP	90
13	NYM	4.83		13	PHI	89
14	PHI	4.85		14	NYM	88
15	CIN	5.23		15	CIN	86