G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 ESPN's Hall of 100 -- ranking players based strictly on performance, no character clauses -- rates Tom Seaver the No. 24 player of all-time, the No. 6 pitcher of all-time, the No. 5 RHP of all-time. Only righties better, they claim: some bat-throwing dick; some creep who pitched mostly for Atlanta and the Cubs; somebody who was said to be a large locomotive; and a fellow for whom a pitching award is named only because he predated Seaver and thus Seaver himself couldn't be the standard. Seeing as how it is established that Tom Seaver is the Greatest Everything Ever, this is shockingly low. But others would call it pretty darn high.Other Mets (or those who wore Mets uniform in competition):93. T#m Gl@v!ne86. Gary Carter81. Duke Snider78. Mike Piazza73. Roberto Alomar65. Eddie Murray56. Yogi Berra45. Warren Spahn41. Pedro Martinez35. Nolan Ryan14. Rickey Henderson2. Willie Mays
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Rickey Henderson?Nolan Ryan?Don Zimmer?
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I stopped reading after ESPN. Might as well tell me what your neighbor's kid ranked them as, I'd put more stock in it.
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 And yet, there's no statue of him at Citi Field.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted December 13, 2012 Author Posted December 13, 2012 Edgy MD wrote:Rickey Henderson?Nolan Ryan?Don Zimmer?"Duh," he said. Fixed to include those guys, except for Zimmer, who would've been No. 2 behind Torre had the character clause been considered, according to Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 It's funny how I came to that. I thought, "Maybe their criteria isn't favorable to what Rickey was, but... surely any reasonable criteria would say he was better than Gl@v!ne... and Carter... and Snider and Piazza and Alomar and Murray... ." I went all the way up to Pedro and was still incapable of making a reasonable argument why Pedro could be seen as better.Nolie that high is still a small surprise.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 When no-hitters are a counting number for you, it's tough to resist.He's NOT above Pedro-- and maybe the best 3-4 year prime in history-- in my book.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I still can't wait to see Robbie play like a Hall of Famer in a Met uniform.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I asked David Cone a few years ago who the two best righties of his generation were and his answer was.1. Bob Gibson2. Tom SeaverHe qualified it by saying Gibson for a day and Seaver for a season. I didnt ask about 1968 lol.
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