Standings, Twenty-Twelve

[Ceetar]

Of course I'm serious. Why wouldn't this team be able to beat LA?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Just a commentary on the recent results. Fielding bad, pitching pretty bad, not hitting home runs and encountering a good starting staff in a tough park on the Coast doesn't sound promising recipe for this team to "take things into their own hands." Let's see if we can maintain.

[Ceetar]

Mets remain 3 back of the Dodgers/Giants for that first spot, and one back of the Braves for the second. (tied with Braves)

Would need to sweep the Dodgers to swipe that one.

[G-Fafif]

NL East
WSH --
ATL 3.5 (.533)
NYM 3.5 (.532)

NL Wild Card
LAD -- (2.5 GA)
***
ATL -- (.533)
PIT -- (.533)
NYM -- (.532)
STL 0.5
ARI 2.0

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 3.5
ATL 4.5

N.L. Wild Card

LAD -- (1 GA PIT/NYM}
***
PIT -- (.539)
NYM -- (.538)
ATL 1.0
STL 1.5
ARI 2.0

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 3.5
ATL 4.5

N.L. Wild Card

LAD -- (1 GA PIT/NYM)
***
PIT -- (.53846)
NYM -- (.53750)
ATL 1.0
STL 1.5
ARI 3.0
MIA 4.0
MIL 6.0

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 3.5
ATL 5.0

N.L. Wild Card

PIT -- (.544)
LAD -- (.543)
***
NYM 0.5
STL 1.5
ATL 2.0
ARI 4.0
MIA 5.0
MIL 6.0

SFG leads LAD by 1.5 in NL West
CIN leads PIT by 1.0 in NL Central

[G-Fafif]

You know what they say about the Fourth of July: The team in first place wins the pennant -- except I don't think they actually say that anymore.

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 3.5
ATL 5.0

N.L. Wild Card

PIT/CIN -- (.550)
LAD -- (.549)
***
NYM 0.5
ATL 2.0
STL 2.5
ARI 5.0
MIL 5.0
MIA 6.0

SFG leads LAD by 0.5 in NL West
PIT AND CIN tied in NL Central

[Ceetar]

i'm only halfway annoyed that these teams we're chasing are coordinating winning streaks with us. (to be fair, they seem to coordinate the losing streaks too). Keeps seeming like the mets play well, but only gain like 1 game.

[Edgy MD]

Baseball Prosectus is only giving Pittsburgh an 8.7 % chance of winning the division they're currently sitting on top of. Texas, on the other hand, is given a 100.0% (after rounding, I guess) chance of a post-season life.

NL East
Team	W	L	%	GB	Net GB	M#/E#	BP % Champs
Washington	46	32	.590	---	---	80	55.1%
New York	44	37	.543	3.5	3.5	80	18.1%
Atlanta	42	38	.525	5.0	6.5	79	24.8%
Miami	38	42	.475	9.0	18.5	75	1.2%
Philadelphia	36	46	.439	12.0	30.5	71	0.8%

NL Wildcard
Team	W	L	%	GB	Net GB	M#/E#	BP % WC
Washington	46	32	.590	Div.	Lead.	---	25.6%
San Francisco	45	36	.556	Div.	Lead.	---	11.0%
Pittsburgh	44	36	.550	Div.	Lead.	---	21.7%
Cincinnati	44	36	.550	---	---	81	17.7%
Los Angeles	45	37	.549	---	---	81	23.6%
New York	44	37	.543	0.5	0.5	81	24.8%
Atlanta	42	38	.525	2.0	3.5	80	24.8%
St. Louis	42	39	.519	2.5	5.0	79	24.4%
Arizona	39	41	.488	5.0	15.0	77	8.3%
Milwaukee	38	42	.475	6.0	20.0	76	7.1%
Miami	38	42	.475	6.0	20.0	76	3.9%
Philadelphia	36	46	.439	9.0	41.0	72	1.2%
Houston	32	49	.395	12.5	69.0	69	0.0%
Colorado	31	49	.388	13.0	73.5	69	0.0%
San Diego	32	50	.390	13.0	73.5	68	0.0%
Chicago	30	50	.375	14.0	84.5	68	0.0%

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 4.5
ATL 6.0

N.L. Wild Card

SFG -- (1/2 GA CIN)
CIN --
***
NYM 0.5
STL 1.0
ATL 2.0
ARI 5.0
MIA 5.0
MIL 6.0

LAD leads SFG by 0.5 in NL West
PIT leads CIN by 1.0 in NL Central

Edited July 4, 2012 by Guest

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

The Nationals are starting to pull ahead of the pack.

Also, does being in first place on the Fourth of July mean anything?

[Frayed Knot]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: does being in first place on the Fourth of July mean anything?

Yes, except for the times when it doesn't.


Hard to remember now that the 2005 Nats were rolling at 50-32 coming out of July 4th (compared to 47-32 now).
They finished 81-81 that season.

[Ceetar]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: The Nationals are starting to pull ahead of the pack. Also, does being in first place on the Fourth of July mean anything?

Gary mentioned yesterday that only one team has been as far out as the Phillies are on July 4th and won the division.

(you should be able to guess the team)

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Frayed Knot wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: does being in first place on the Fourth of July mean anything? Yes, except for the times when it doesn't. Hard to remember now that the 2005 Nats were rolling at 50-32 coming out of July 4th (compared to 47-32 now). They finished 81-81 that season.

Yes, that's mentioned in the linked article.

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 4.5
ATL 6.0

N.L. Wild Card

NYM --
SFG --
***
CIN 0.5
STL 1.0
ATL 1.5
MIA 4.5
ARI 5.5
MIL 6.5

LAD leads SFG by 1.5 in NL West
PIT leads CIN by 2.0 in NL Central

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 4.5
ATL 5.0

N.L. Wild Card

SFG -- (0.5 GA CIN)
CIN --
***
NYM 0.5
ATL 1.0
STL 1.5
MIA 4.0
ARI 5.0
MIL 6.0

LAD leads SFG by 0.5 in NL West
PIT leads CIN by 1.0 in NL Central

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
NYM 4.5
ATL 5.0

N.L. Wild Card

CIN -- (0.5 GA NYM/SFG)
NYM/SFG --
***
ATL 0.5
STL 1.0
MIA 4.5
ARI 4.5
MIL 6.5

LAD leads SFG by 0.5 in NL West
PIT leads CIN by 1.0 in NL Central[

[Ceetar]

Big game today guys, I want all these All-Star Break stories and playoff break downs to have the NYM on them.

[bmfc1]

Ceetar wrote: Big game today guys, I want all these All-Star Break stories and playoff break downs to have the NYM on them.

Agreed. I don't want to have the last game until Friday be a loss.

[G-Fafif]

At the slightly more than halfway mark...

N.L. East

WSH --
ATL 4.0
NYM 4.5

N.L. Wild Card

CIN -- (1 GA ATL)
ATL --
***
NYM 0.5
STL 0.5
SFG 0.5
ARI 4.0
MIA 5.0
MIL 6.0

LAD leads SFG by 0.5, ARI by 4.0 in NL West
PIT leads CIN by 1.0, STL by 2.5 in NL Central

All in all, 11 of the 16 teams in the National League have a conceivable shot at one of the playoff spots. Philadelphia is not one of them.

[G-Fafif]

N.L. East

WSH --
ATL 4.0
NYM 5.5

N.L. Wild Card

PIT/CIN -- (1 GA ATL)
ATL --
***
SFG 0.5
NYM 1.5
STL 1.5
ARI 5.0
MIL 6.0
MIA 6.0

LAD leads SFG by 0.5, ARI by 5.0 in NL West
PIT and CIN tied, lead STL by 2.5 in NL Central

[G-Fafif]

Win a game, then maybe we can track.

[Edgy MD]

Twelve out of first as the deadline comes. Eight and a half off the wild card.

Winners (ugly winners but winners) of three of the last five, which convinces almost nobody that the ship is righted. A lot of teams in between, too, leaving 'em 34 1/2 net games off the card.

Hoping that San Francisco has caught the Mets freefall disease.

[Edgy MD]

Philly's been beating up on the Nats and Miami took Atlanta down a peg last night.

We have a chance to pull within ten games tonight.

[Edgy MD]

I think the playoff percentages haven't incorporated last night's games.

NL East
Team	W	L	%	GB	Net GB	Elim. #	BP % Winners
Washington	64	43	.598	---	---	---	68.2%
Atlanta	61	46	.570	3.0	3.0	53	31.6%
New York	53	55	.491	11.5	20.0	44	0.2%
Miami	49	59	.454	15.5	32.0	40	0.0%
Philadelphia	48	59	.449	16.0	34.0	40	0.0%

Wild Card
Team	W	L	%	GB	Net GB	Elim. #	BP % Champs
Cincinnati	66	41	.617				12.5%
Washington	64	43	.598				25.1%
San Francisco	58	49	.542				7.4%
Atlanta	61	46	.570	---	---	---	39.8%
Pttsburgh	60	46	.566	---	---	54	46.8%
St. Louis	58	49	.542	2.5	2.5	53	56.0%
Los Angeles	58	50	.537	3.0	3.5	52	4.8%
Arizona	55	52	.514	5.5	11.0	51	4.5%
New York	53	55	.491	8.0	21.0	49	2.7%
Miami	49	59	.454	12.0	41.0	47	0.0%
Milwaukee	48	58	.453	12.0	41.0	47	0.3%
Philadelphia	48	59	.449	12.5	44.5	46	0.1%
San Diego	45	64	.413	16.5	76.5	45	0.0%
Chicago	43	62	.410	16.5	76.5	42	0.0%
Colorado	38	67	.362	21.5	126.5	39	0.0%
Houston	36	72	.333	25.0	165.0	32	0.0%

[Edgy MD]

Let's finish this tomorrow and stamp third place hard.

NL East
Team	W	L	%	GB	Net GB	M#/E#
Washington	78	51	.605	---	---	28
Atlanta	74	57	.565	5.0	5.0	28
New York	61	69	.469	17.5	30.0	16
Philadelphia	61	69	.469	17.5	30.0	16
Miami	59	72	.450	20.0	40.0	13

NL Wildcard
Team	W	L	%	GB	Net GB	M#/E#
Cincinnati	80	52	.606	Div.	Lead.	---
Washington	78	51	.605	Div.	Lead.	---
San Francisco	72	57	.558	Div.	Lead.	---
Atlanta	74	57	.565	---	---	32
St. Louis	71	59	.546	---	---	32
Pittsburgh	70	60	.538	1.0	1.0	32
Los Angeles	70	61	.534	1.5	2.0	31
Arizona	64	67	.489	7.5	20.0	25
Milwaukee	62	67	.481	8.5	24.0	25
New York	61	69	.469	10.0	31.5	23
Philadelphia	61	69	.469	10.0	31.5	23
San Diego	61	71	.462	11.0	38.5	21
Miami	59	72	.450	12.5	50.5	20
Colorado	53	76	.411	17.5	95.5	16
Chicago	49	80	.380	21.5	135.5	12
Houston	40	89	.310	30.5	234.5	3

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm not sure, but I seem to remember a rule change that would allow Atlanta to play Washington, or St. Louis to play Cincinnati, in the NLDS. Is that correct?

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm not sure, but I seem to remember a rule change that would allow Atlanta to play Washington, or St. Louis to play Cincinnati, in the NLDS. Is that correct?

yup.

[Frayed Knot]

Correct, the winner of the WC one-game death-match will face the division winner with the best record regardless of what division each came from -- as opposed to the old system where the sole WC team could not face its division rival in the opening round.