Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Last night reminded me that while Mets pitching has been quite good this year, they seem to issue an extraordinary amount of runs after 2 outs, nobody on, at least as a percentage of their total runs allowed.Who can figure this one out? My guess would be they are the worst in the league at this.I've seemingly noticed that too. Johan used to (and probably still does, to a lesser extent) excel at this. Dickey's also very very good at it, but that's partially the nature of the knucklerball to put guys on and then get out of it. Could we boil it down to pressure/pressing, or is that too esoteric? Pelfrey went through the first half of the season without allowing an unearned run, and now suddenly the defense has come apart.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2010 Author Posted August 16, 2010 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:Last night reminded me that while Mets pitching has been quite good this year, they seem to issue an extraordinary amount of runs after 2 outs, nobody on, at least as a percentage of their total runs allowed.Who can figure this one out? My guess would be they are the worst in the league at this.That stuff is findable - at least sort of.BB-Ref under the Mets 2010 page, then under 'Pitching', and then under 'Splits' (scroll down to see 'Number of Outs per Inning'-- http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=p&team=NYM&year=2010And indeed the Mets are giving up more 2-out runs than in 1-run or no-run situations.0 outs = 91 RA; 1 outs = 177 RA; 2 outs = 197Problem is you'd then have to look up the same with every other team (or at least the league as a whole) to see whether that's unusual or not. I suspect more runs in general are given up with 1 or 2 outs than with none just based on the idea that runs are scored more often as inning moves further along.I remember looking this up a few years back (2008 maybe) and the Mets that year were MUCH worse at coughing up 2-out runs.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2010 Author Posted August 16, 2010 NYM 2010 Runs Allowed:0 outs = 19.57 %1 outs = 38.06 %2 outs = 42.37 %NL 2010 Runs Allowed:0 outs = 23.13 %1 outs = 38.82 %2 outs = 38.05 %So that's somewhat skewed against our staff's "clutchness", although not nearly as lopsided as what I remember from the time I did this a couple seasons back.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Well, I was asking not just about 2-out runs, but runs surrendered after 2 outs and nobody on base.You'd figure the teams that surrender the most HRs would be most vulnerable to this -- but the Mets aren't that kinda staff and I'd guess they're still near the top.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted August 16, 2010 Posted August 16, 2010 Stats I'd like to see? An occassional Mets victory would be nice, a modest 3 game win streak would be greatly appreciated.
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