Don't be a Tool

[Guest Edgy DC]

In my new Inside Pitch magazine, Patrick Teale ranks the top ten Met pitching prospects by pitch:

It seems to be a combination between ability and execution. So a guy with a raw 99 MPH fastball that he can't spot will rank alongside a guy with a 95 that he spots well and another guy with both a two-seam with some sink and a four-seam to come up and in with.

So guessing one guy at time maybe, tell me who these cats may be. Remember the whole system is available.

Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________
Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________

[Gwreck]

Aaron Heilman -- #2 on the changeup list?

[Guest Edgy DC]

We're looking at only prospects. Non-Major Leaguers.

[Guest martin]

they say philip humber has a wicked curve, and i believe deolis guerra has a filthy something, a change possibly.

gotta go with pelfrey on the fastball.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Martin says nuts to the one-guess-at-a-time rule. I'm too lazy to push for it and how long would that take anyhow?

Thirty-point post.

Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) [u:4c1346cfce]Mike Pelfrey[/u:4c1346cfce]______________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) [u:4c1346cfce]Phillip Humber[/u:4c1346cfce]____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________
Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) [u:4c1346cfce]Deolis Guerra[/u:4c1346cfce]_____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________

[Gwreck]

Kevin Mulvey on the FB list? Maybe Gurera too?

[Frayed Knot]

I couldn't name 10 Met pitching prospects at this point.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Bobby Parnell: Best slider, No. 4 fastball, No. 6 curveball, No. 9 changeup. He also throws the best forkball, best splitter, best eephus, best spitter, best knuckleball and baddest-ass forehand flick.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) [u:768c1ec07e]Mike Pelfrey[/u:768c1ec07e]______________ 2) ________________________ 3) [u:768c1ec07e]Kevin Mulvey[/u:768c1ec07e]_____________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) [u:768c1ec07e]Phillip Humber[/u:768c1ec07e]____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________
Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) [u:768c1ec07e]Deolis Guerra[/u:768c1ec07e]_____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________

OK, that's eight to Gwreck, minus one for getting Deolis wrong. Seven points total.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Kunz for slider

[Guest Edgy DC]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Bobby Parnell: Best slider, No. 4 fastball, No. 6 curveball, No. 9 changeup. He also throws the best forkball, best splitter, best eephus, best spitter, best knuckleball and baddest-ass forehand flick.

Second best slider. Fifth-best curveball. Not appearring on the curveball or changeup list. Thirteen points

Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) Mike Pelfrey______________ 2) ________________________ 3) Kevin Mulvey_____________ 4) ________________________ 5) Bobby Parnell____________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) Phillip Humber____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________
Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) Deolis Guerra_____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________	Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) Bobby Parnell____________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________

OK, that's eight to Gwreck, minus one for getting Deolis wrong. Seven points total.

[Guest Edgy DC]

cleonjones11 wrote: Kunz for slider

Not in the system yet.

[Guest martin]

you would have to be a serious maniac to even know the names of more than 3 or 4 more pitching prospects.

[Guest Edgy DC]

[Guest cleonjones11]

Michael Devaney curveball and Tobi Stoner fastball

[Guest Edgy DC]

Both are there. But I forgoot to bring the issue to work. So this quiz goes on hiatus until later.

A note to the wise: this article was clearly filed at least two months ago, as it includes Blake "The Fake" McGinley, who is now out of the system, among the top changer-uppers.

[Guest iramets]

Edgy DC wrote:

The line "...and she's dancing like she's like's never danced before" is extremely ambiguous.

1) she's dancing much better than she's ever danced before

and

2) she's dancing like someone who is taking her very first dance steps

[Guest Edgy DC]

To define the meaning of a Michael Sembello line is like trying to box the light from a shooting star, trying to cage a moment.

It's there, then it's gone!

Just a steel town girl on a Saturday night

Looking for the fight of her life

In the real time world no one sees her at all

They all say she's crazy

Locking rhythms to the beat of her heart

Changing movement into the light

She has danced into the danger zone

When the dancer becomes the dance.

It can cut you like a knife

If the gift becomes the fire

On the wire between will and what will be

She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor

And she's dancing like she's never danced before

She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor

And she's dancing like she's never danced before

On the ice bleu line of insanity

Is a place most never see

It's a hard won place of mystery

Touch it but can't hold it

You work all your life for that moment in time

It can come or pass you by

It's push, shove world but there's always a chance

If the hunger stays the night

There's a cold kinetic heat

Struggling, stretching for the peak

Never stopping with her head against the wind

She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor

And she's dancing like she's never danced before

She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor

And she's dancing like she's never danced before

It can cut you like a knife

If the gift becomes the fire

On the wire between will and what will be

She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor

And she's dancing like she's never danced before

She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor

And she's dancing like she's never danced before

You can touch it, ira, but never hold it. Never ever hold it.

[Guest iramets]

How did you know I was touching it?

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Are there any hitters amongst the Mets prospects?

[Guest Edgy DC]

There are. None made the list of best curveballs though.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Probably not, but hopefully some of them can at least hit one.*



*Don't mind me, the Mets noffense has me in a rather pissy mood right now.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Yes

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yes?

I dropped this mid-stream. The list went as follows.

Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Jose De La Torre[/u:a0bba8be08]_________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Eric Brown[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Nick Carr[/u:a0bba8be08]________________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Shane Hawk[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Tobi Stoner[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Bobby Parnell[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]John Holdzkom[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Kevin Mulvey[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Philip Humber[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Mike Pelfrey**[/u:a0bba8be08]______________

Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Jose Sanchez[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Todd Privett[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Scott Hyde[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Julio Polanco[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Michael Devaney[/u:a0bba8be08]__________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Tobi Stoner[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]Jeff Landing[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Robert Paulk[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Jonathan Niese[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Phillip Humber[/u:a0bba8be08]____________

Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Blake Eager[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Philip Humber[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Jeff Landing[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Miguel Panango[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Jake Ruckle[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Blake McGinley*[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]German Marte[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Shane Hawk[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Eddie Camacho[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Deolis Guerra[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________

Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Josh Stinson[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Jake Ruckle[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Marcello Perez[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Kevin Mulvey[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Eric Brown[/u:a0bba8be08]________________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Jose De La Torre[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]Brandon Nall[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Joe Smith**[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Bobby Parnell[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Shane Hawk[/u:a0bba8be08]______________

* No longer in system.

** No longer in minors.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Shane Hawk hasn't appeared in a pro game for 2+ years.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yup. His cuff went, followed by his labrum, I think. This report was clearly filed during the spring, thus the references to Blake the Fake being in the system and Bazooka Joe being a prospect. At that time, Hawk was merely two years in the wilderness, but the short season rosters are out and I haven't seen him on one.

If he's got a Mormon mission or something to do, I hope he got it out of the way while he was down.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Holdzkom is another guy not pitching professionally this year. He was the gigantic dorky looking college drop-out with the wild stuff we drafted last year.

Jonathan Niese and his cureveball of awesomeness have gone 6-4, 5.15 at St. Lucie. He's given up a lot of hits/runs but has pretty good indicators (73.1 IP, 4 HR, 19/57 BB/K). He's also a pup @ 20 years old. His teammate Jake Ruckle appears to be using his Top-10-rated changes and sliders for relief.

Kevin "Fastball/Slider" Mulvey has given up 1 home run in 92.2 innings at Bingo. That sounds pretty good.

[Guest Edgy DC]

John, who proudly ignores the advice of this thread title, will be getting a late start on short season ball after a month's vacation from St. Lucie. According to the Daily News, 7-6:

Pitcher John Holdzkom, the Mets� fourth-round pick in �06, was quietly sent home for a month after severely damaging a hotel room, a team official said.

Nice going, Jimmy Page.