Anti-Yankee Bias Rears Its Head

[Guest Edgy DC]

Huston Street is AL Rookie of the Year, beating out Robinson Cano.

Also placing: West Fourth Street, Great Jones Way, and Washington Square.

Ryan Howard wins it for the National League. No Mets place.

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051107&content_id=1265232&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

For a team with a disastrous record, the Rockies have to be happy about having three guys place.

[Elster88]

I'm kind of hoping Jacobs doesn't win it next year. That award can be the kiss of death.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't make much of that.

I suspect a reason it seems like the kiss of death is often because teams on the fringes are more likely to give a non uber-phenom rookie a shot out of camp, so a lot more full-season rookie years are turned in by players with Pittsburgh and Cleveland than with richer teams. So that can lead to lesser prospects beating out David Wrights and Jeff Francouers.

It's a purely speculative and not fully-formed theory.

[metirish]

Great for Street, Tadahito Iguchi faired very well,Howard beating out the competition by a large number, especially Jeff Francoeur....Kazmir got a vote.....damn you to hell Duke.....

[Elster88]

Edgy DC wrote: It's a purely speculative and not fully-formed theory.

Just like any other superstition.

[Guest Edgy DC]

It hardly characterizes itself as that.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Yea for Huston Street - he was amazing this season.

[Frayed Knot]

AL: 28 votes total - 5 pts 1st place, 3 pts 2nd place, 1 pt 3rd place

Street: 15 - 6 - 4 = 97 pts total
Cano: 4 - 10 - 7 = 57
Gomes (TB): 2 - 8 - 5 = 39
Iguchi: 5 - 1 - 2 = 30
Chacin (Tor): 2 - 0 - 4 = 14
Swisher (Oak): 0 - 2 - 0
Blanton (Oak): 0 - 1 - 3
Crain (Min): 0 - 0 - 2
Kazmir: 0 - 0 - 1



NL: 30 votes total

Howard: 19 - 3 - 5 = 109
Tavarez (Hou): 7 - 11 - 10 = 78
Francoeur: 2 - 14 - 8 = 60
Atkins (Col): 1 - 2 - 6 = 17
Duke (Pit): 3 - 0 - 1 = 16
Francis (Col): 0 - 1 - 0
Weeks (Mil): 0 - 1 - 0
Barmes (Col): 0 - 0 - 1
Vargas (Fla): 0 - 0 - 1


5 different guys receiving 1st place votes is pretty unusual I'd bet, especially in both leagues in the same year.
AL seems to have had a bunch of good choices though no great one.
NL had a bunch of real good half-year guys: Barmes in the 1st half, Francoeur, Howard & Duke in the 2nd.

[Elster88]

Barmes: the forgotten man. I would've thought he was the easy winner back before the deer meat incident.

When do we get MVPs?

[Valadius]

Nov. 14th AL MVP
Nov. 15th NL MVP

[Guest Edgy DC]

Of 18 guys, only three foreign born.

[Elster88]

Thanks Valaddy Daddy.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: Of 18 guys, only three foreign born.

Cano - DR
Chacin - Venz
Iguchi - Japan
Taverez - DR

[Guest Edgy DC]

Missed the Venezuelan.

[MFS62]

Edgy, why do you think the number (or percentage) of Latin American players was important? Is this from the other thread where it was brought out that 9% of major leaguers are African-American? Or is it just an observation?

On quick inspection, it seems that most of the songs parodied in our contests over the years were based on songs originally recorded by White Males. Do you think it make a difference in the way the CPF-ers voted when those songs were up against songs originally recorded by African-Americans or women?

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[Guest Edgy DC]

]Edgy, why do you think the number (or percentage) of Latin American players was important? Is this from the other thread where it was brought out that 9% of major leaguers are African-American? Or is it just an observation?

1) It's not important. Just worthy of note in passing. Because much is publicized about the changing demographics of the league and it's stars. This is one unscientific way of observing which way the league is going demographically.

]On quick inspection, it seems that most of the songs parodied in our contests over the years were based on songs originally recorded by White Males. Do you think it make a difference in the way the CPF-ers voted when those songs were up against songs originally recorded by African-Americans or women?

I won year one on the considerable high heels of Donna Summer, and the flat heels of Suzanne Vega and Patty Smith.

[MFS62]

Edgy DC wrote: 1) It's not important. Just worthy of note in passing. Because much is publicized about the changing demographics of the league and it's stars. This is one unscientific way of observing which way the league is going demographically. I won year one on the considerable high heels of Donna Summer, and the flat heels of Suzanne Vega and Patty Smith.

1) That's what I thought. The change in demographics is interesting, isn't it?

2) Nice imagery.

Thanks,
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