Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 The one I never heard of was Alan Foster.I'm not sure what happened with Don Heffner!It looks like something is awry.I'll have to look into it when I get back from vacation.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 The detail I remember about Heffner (I read in someone's memoirs) was that the players called him "Grandpa Snazzy" and that every story he told began "Well, back in 1934..." For some reason, I think this was in a memoir written by a Cincinnati Red, who he managed very briefly. Rose, maybe? I don't know any other Reds of the 1960s who might have written memoirs that I read.
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 I'm not sure how that Heffner thing got there.Here's how it should have looked:ERAMinimum 100 InningsSandy Koufax1.44Bob Friend1.61Gene Garber1.69Alan Foster1.76Jack Billingham1.81J. R. Richard1.90Gary Nolan2.09Claude Osteen2.09Juan Marichal2.13Vern Law2.13Pedro Martinez2.16Danny Jackson2.22Larry Jackson2.24Zane Smith2.26Don Drysdale2.26Steve Avery2.31Jack Sanford2.32Bill Stoneman2.37Tug McGraw2.39Ron Reed2.39Curt Schilling2.41Exit Heffner, enter Schilling.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 I remember it was a big deal when the Mets first beat Juan Marichal. Prior to that he had won his [u:302c553d35]first 19 decisions[/u:302c553d35] against them (w/a couple of NDs - *Plus a Save!!!* - throw in).They beat him up a few times over the remaining years as his career wound down and the NYM got better - but for a time he was at least as tough on them as Koufax and was doing it for far longer.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Fun to see Vernon Law on that list. To carry on the tradition, his shortstop son also threw a scoreless inning against the Mets.
RealityChuck Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Interesting to see Bob Friend as #2 on the list: he was the second Mets pitcher to get a win against Koufax (other than McGraw). McGraw started that game, but left in the second inning.Glad to be here, EdgyDC.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 If he stayed with Pittsburgh (or another NL team) one more year, he might've overcome Koufax.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Some other youngish NL-ish pitchers hoping to one day join those elite:Josh Beckett, 66.2 IP, 2.43 ERAKris Benson, 46.2 IP, 3.47 ERABrian Moehler, 16.1 IP, 0.55 ERAKip Wells, 19.1 IP, 2.33 ERAMark Prior, 29.1 IP, 1.23 ERADontrelle Willis, 52.2 IP, 2.39 ERAKerry Wood, 63.0 IP, 1.71 ERA
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