LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I know how we feel, and how most of the informed-fan circles in which I traffic feel, but I wonder: do we have the numbers? Or do most Met fans think Carton's way-- that trading Francoeur (and Barajas and Cora) are "giving up" moves? The trade of Frenchy coupled with losing the first two games of this series,...I'd say that the Mets as an organization have officially thrown in the towel. Yea, they have given up. But as a fan I have the luxury of still hoping beyond hope. I have seen too many wacky things happen in baseball to ever give up before the math shows we are actually done. So part of me will still hope. The wacky part. I'm not as wacky as I used to be so that's just a small sliver of hope.