Ceetar

Frayed Knot wrote: We had an ongoing argument/discussion about that here back the year he and Bay were both FAs. Not that I recall anyone taking the 'Bay = better overall' position, but how much worse Holliday's defense was (or wasn't) was one of the factors being thrown into the mix. He had made a bad error that October too so the topic was fresh in everyone's mind with some taking the position that he was usually pretty bad (I was on that side IIRC) while others claimed that he was, at worst, adequate and that his rep was being blown up by that one recent high-profile gaff. I still vote for notably below average even within the universe of LFers who, as a whole, aren't exactly known for their glove work. maybe he can be a DH for Bay one day.

Jeter never would've done that. He would've called up and had an usher take the two woman secretly out back to the clubhouse to wait for him.

metirish wrote: Rooting hard here for the Giants, screw Holliday, that was a dirty takeout,Scutaro is lucky his leg want snapped. Loved when he got the hit and then Holliday kicked it. is it just the small sample i watch Hollliday, or is he really that bad an outfielder?

Ceetar wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Rickey is correct - he was a coach in 2007 (plus you got Olerud as well) Oh boo, "as a coach" isn't a trick question? And btw, Tom Seaver was wearing a Mets jersey on Opening Day of Citi Field in 2009.

Swan Swan H wrote: Rickey is correct - he was a coach in 2007 (plus you got Olerud as well) Oh boo, "as a coach" isn't a trick question?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Oops, I posted the above before I saw the reply that said we should only guess one at a time. Sorry. Rickey's wrong anyway, it's Alomar. at the end of the..2003? season.

last guy from the Yankees.. David Justice?

terrifically horrific.

metsmarathon wrote: �That�s the last thing that I ever thought would be in this ballpark, that people would get on you that bad,� said Swisher wow, yeah, i mean, who would ever think new york fans would be hard on a struggling athlete. that like never happens. ever. It's like he's completely oblivious to everything about the A-Rod/Yankees fan relationship. This is shaping up to be a pretty horrific ending to the season for the Yankees. not selling out, ushers moving fans into empty seats so it looks better, guys making postseason outs at historic paces, not hitting, Jeter getting hurt. I think we're one rampant steroid allegation from George rising from the grave to stir up some chaos.

He played more in NY, if slightly, went to the postseason as a Met and played very well, and was a better player in NY. By OPS+ (so as compared to the rest of the league) were (mostly) in NY and you add in two more before you get a second Royals year. It was in NY he made his Hall of Fame case, I don't care who happened to draft him. And he doesn't get to pick.

sure he is.

metrotheme wrote: I don't know how much of a stake Strawberry had in it. The people that own Southern Hospitality in Manhattan owned it. If he really had a lot of money in it, I think he would have been there more often. I liked the food when it first opened, but the most recent menu change sucked. Darren @ The7Line wrote a eulogy of it that has more info about who ran it and what not. http://the7line.com/rip-strawberrys/#disqus_thread It was always kind of out of the way for me, but I stopped in a couple of times when I was invited (post-Hofstra conference for instance) and had fun. I actually enjoyed the new menu because it was connected with an awesome selection of beers, but it sounds like they packaged it with some sterile pretension that alienated it's core clientele. I actually have a gift certificate there from like a year ago that I never used. oops.

It's weird too, because while I'd be more surprised if those other guys (Pettitte aside obviously) weren't using than if they were, A-Rod's the guy you'd peg as the well-conditioned druggie slugger that'd be hitting Bondsian shots into his 40s. (And honestly, I think he will have a good year next year, barring another injury. )

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/how_much_does_losing_jeter_hurt_the_yankees_on_paper/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter So there you have it folks. Jeter is not worth any more to the Yankees than Jayson Nix.

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Carlos Beltran plays for the enemy now. Whatever he does helps the Cards' legacy not the Mets. And their legacy is a dumptruck full of World Series championships, pennants, and Mets humiliations so I really don't want to see them add to that. Yes, but it also helps _his_ legacy. I don't get any enjoyment/dislike out of a Cardinals WS, or a Giants, or a Tigers. Nothing about this particular team has anything to do with Mets humiliation. But one day down the road I'll hopefully get to enjoy a couple of days of celebrating Carlos Beltran as a Met and a Hall of Famer. I'll get to go to Citi Field and see them retire Val Pascucci's 15. I'll try to drive up to Cooperstown to see him inducted. The Cardinals aren't division rivals or city rivals. I'm not going to have to watch them 18 times next year against the Mets or scoreboard watch hoping they lose so the Mets can win the division. (Maybe in September, maybe, if they're both competing for the second Wild Card) I'm not going to have to hear Cardinals fans gloating at work or in my life anywhere. So if another championship for them helps in some small way for me to enjoy a couple of days in 2020? Go Cards.

Swan Swan H wrote: Matthews and the other hacks have already written their stories for this series: If the Yankees win they rallied together, 25 men playing as one to win it for their fallen captain If the Tigers win it proves that Jeter is indispensable I need hockey. NOW! Jesse Spector wrote: Good news is that Derek Jeter is now free to mediate NHL labor talks. Gift basket to the side that makes concessions first.

Swan Swan H wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: Whippersnappers don't remember '85, '87, the White Rat, corked-bat accusations, Coleman stealing bases at will, and Pond Scum (among other things). I'm old enough to have used the term whippersnapper unironically, but the Giants are the more recent antagonist to me. Plus, Beltran deserves a ring. I'm the whippersnapper i suppose, but that last thing is what I'm rooting for most. However minutely, it strengthens the likelihood of another Met in the Hall of Fame, and of anything that could happen in the postseason this year, that one's the one that has the potential to create pleasant moments for me in the future. Provided of course that the Mets don't drop the ball on the Alumni relations bit of it, which I'm not confident in.

Frayed Knot wrote: Mets � Willets Point wrote: TransMonk wrote: Personally, I think it's going to be difficult for Jeter to come back from this at all being 38 years old. Luckily they have a guy who can play shortstop who is only 37 years old. Nunez is a better hitter than Jeter at this point so it's not like they're going to lose anything there (unless you subscribe to the whole clutch factor thing) but he's a butcher in the field. Maybe you'll see him during Sabathia's game(s) on the theory of more Ks means fewer ground balls to boot. Nunez fields more balls too though, so it's probably a wash defensively. He's not as good a hitter though, in fact he's pretty bad. had decent numbers in his small ML stint this year, but was horrible in the minors.

Mets � Willets Point wrote: We need to expel the traitors rooting for the Cardinals from this forum. (j/k - mostly). I don't harbor much animosity for them. I figure if we balance 2006 against 2000 we're even in the postseasons that I've watched. But really it's just Beltran. I don't hate the Giants, but I'm hoping for Beltran to break his streak of having really awesome NLCSs and losing anyway. It was the Cardinals that advanced both times, so maybe that bodes well for him.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It's a lot more fun to root against the MFYs with a healthy Jeter in the fold. Cause you can hope he fails and his postseason numbers drop.

and supposedly an automated email from the Nats about the WS presale went out early this morning.

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Ceetar wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: Incredible! How do the Cards pull this stuff time and time again? #blamebeltran. Blame Bud for "the shitty teams can get into the playoffs on a coinflip" rule. Cardinals aren't a shitty team. The Nationals had their chances but they got outpitched and outplayed despite having plenty of time to set up their rotation and rest guys and what not. And that certainly could've happened if it was the Braves, or the Giants too. If the Cardinals really are the "5th best" team in the playoffs, that's even more of an advantage for the Nats, who still couldn't do anything with it. so sad. Maybe if they'd had one more good pitcher...

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Incredible! How do the Cards pull this stuff time and time again? #blamebeltran.

Edgy DC wrote: That math doesn't add up at all. If they indeed believe the tradeoff is four or five playoff appearances, then they would be fools not to play it like they did. it's probably shorter than that. They believe if they push Strasburg this year he might be ineffective next year. They're perfectly happy with 'almost good enough' this year if it comes to that as long as they're at least 'almost good enough' again next year. They're rather make the playoffs and lose both years than win the WS this year and miss next year. the criticism of course, is that there is a pretty damn good chance that nothing they've done has helped their chances next year but has definitely hurt them this year.

Vic Sage wrote: But i don't have a problem, in principle, with a GM deciding to limit the IP of a very young pitcher, a #1 pick coming off Tommy John surgery, as a strategy going into a season, and even if i disagree with the way he did it, i respect his commitment to that strategy. And it is his decision about who is and who isn't on the roster... no one else's. Is it arrogant of him to say so? Maybe, but it's also true. The main thing here is the goal. For most fans the idea is to win a World Series, and you never know when/if you get a better shot than right now. But that's not really the front office's goal. They want as many money-drawing Strasburg starts down the line as they can get. They'd rather trade the possibility of winning it all for making the playoffs and losing 4 or 5 times. No matter how little the correlation is from pitching Strasburg more innings this year leading to injury they feel it's in their best interest to get the most out of him over as long a period of time as possible.