Ceetar

Frayed Knot wrote: Smoltz was on the verge of demeaning "new age stats" in the AL MVP argument but got cut off by the 3rd out before finishing his point. Here's the part that kills me about much of that kind of discussion: the folks making it are complaining that stats are taking preference over something like the Triple Crown while seeming to be totally ignorant of the fact that the TC itself is based on nothing but stats. but they like those stats better!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm gonna miss John and Suzyn, I really am. Caught almost the whole thing by radio driving today. I couldn't do it. I listened to the ESPN feed.

MFS62 wrote: Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jack Leathersich ‏@LeatherRocket Can't wait to get out of this #brutal art class so I can wash my car. Hope everyone has a great day! He's taking an art class in the offseason? That seems very unjocklike. Jim Bouton designed and made cosume jewelry. Ya never know what interests them. Later well apparently washing his car interests him more. I wonder if he's just trying to get a degree in the meantime?

Edgy DC wrote: I like how the URL betrays that the original headline writer didn't know what team Trout played for. Trout, Harper, it's all interchangable "OMG look at what the rookie is doing!" raving. I keep looking at the title of this thread and wonder what Terry Collins has against the AL MVP.

seawolf17 wrote: Ceetar wrote: hell, I'd do that even if it meant including Daniel Murphy to play third. Um, Ceets? WE HAVE A GODDAMN THIRD BASEMAN. #paytheman oh, I'm making A-Rod play second. At least, I assume A-Rod at second is better than him at short and Tejada at second.

hell, I'd do that even if it meant including Daniel Murphy to play third.

metsmarathon wrote: not that we have anywhere to necessarily play him, but if the deal were on the table to trade jason bay for alex rodriguez with the yankees covering the difference in the two salaries, would you take it? Meaning we owe the same amount of money we do now, we just have A-Rod instead of Bay? In a heartbeat. For 1, the money coming with the contract would allow Alderson to spend a bit more this season knowing more comes off the books next year, or we have basically a free player that the Yankees are paying that we can release whenever. Make A-Rod play second. He won't be worse than Murphy defensively and he's still going to have some good years ahead of him if he stays healthy.

Eno Sarris at Amazin' Avenue weighs in Using the third baseman on free agent contracts that are currently comparable to David Wright produces $100 million as a viable answer. Using true talent value estimations produces a number that's ten-to-twenty million more. That's good news if you like David Wright and you want him on the Mets. If the team can afford to throw $100 million out there as a first offer, it seems likely they can afford $120 million when push comes to shove.

Mets are 776-580-4 (through 2011) when they hit a double in the 6th inning.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jack Leathersich ‏@LeatherRocket Can't wait to get out of this #brutal art class so I can wash my car. Hope everyone has a great day! He's taking an art class in the offseason? That seems very unjocklike.

Frayed Knot wrote: Trump also was on Michael Kay dishing on ARod yesterday. I only heard about it second-hand but apparently he was saying how he never liked ARod all along implying that he did bad stuff while living in one of Trump's places (didn't specify) that pissed Trump and the staff off. As I said in another thread yesterday when this and the Jeter injury story first came up: Yeah Donald, this is all about you. Now we just have to solve the mystery as to why Kay put him on the air in the first place. stupid comments that can drive a narrative so they can then spend the entire show talking about the comments rather than the actual sport. It's ESPN's MO; talk about the people around sports, but not the sport itself.

George isn't here anymore though. These Yankee owners (not that this wasn't George's main priority too) want to make money, and the luxury tax seems to be something they don't want to deal with.

bmfc1 wrote: Jeter's BFF Ian O'Connor said somewhere yesterday that there could be a "dark period" ahead for the MFYs. the writers seem to smell blood in the water. But of course, if they manage to not continue a downward spiral to three decades of mediocrity, they'll be the first to praise the process.

Yankees wish they were playing a team like the 2004 Yankees now.

Frayed Knot wrote: Verlander after ~110 pitches > Papa Fatty at 0 pitches I tend to agree, it's just that he threw a ton of pitches in both ALDS games and seemed to maybe be tiring a bit.

Frayed Knot wrote: As long as he wants. well yes, but when is it no longer the most effective decision?

Frayed Knot wrote: This game seems like the score should be greater than 2-0 I hate games when I get that feeling because the game is really still on the edge even though I'm ready to prematurely put it in the Win column. especially when it leaves the door open for the Yankees. Verlander at 101 through 7. And seemingly less effective. I don't know how much longer you go with him.

Frayed Knot wrote: Cabrera's hits seem to employ some kind of booster rocket in mid-flight. Shit he's scary! you could always pitch around him to get to Fielder!

Hughes randomly developed a case of 'ouch', taken out of the game, but presumably added to the list of Yankees Yankees fans now detest.

I just read these for the laugh these days.

bmfc1 wrote: Rodriguez now has more time to hit on women in the crowd. There will actually be people in the stands to hit on too.

seawolf17 wrote: So we're supposed to go in to each team and assign no more than $3 per team in salary increases, with a total $25 limit? Making sure I get this right. Think that's right, yeah.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: My point in this debate iirc, was that Holliday appeared to me to be an unlikely get for Omar who for all his faults appeared to value outfielders who could catch. The impression I had of Holliday then and now is not that he's a butcher, but that he's kinda clumsy. Of course he was a better offensive player than Bay and a better bet to avoid a decline but I'm just thinking if Omar had two outfielders to choose from who were somewhat comparable, he'd choose the one with the better glove (to the scout's eye, not to metrics necessarily) even if he gives up in other areas. I don't know if it was just bluster, but supposedly they did run some internal metrics that suggested Bay would be a good fit. And hell, I thought he was the better sign, they didn't need a super star, just a slugger and the shorter commitment seemed like a good idea. 100 home runs over 4 years would've been just fine. overpaid, but very helpful. Now it's clearly one of the worst Mets contracts ever but this is far beyond even what people against the signing thought would happen.

Frayed Knot wrote: Isn't there some kind of goofy formula for determining the "proper" limit for guys dating younger women? Something like half your age plus 7 years sticks in my head. If that's correct then this 22 y/o would be out of bounds for Jeter: X=(38/2)+7= 26 As for ARod: I've long thought that he gets a lot more abuse than he deserves but, holy sheeeet, he deserves a whole lot of it. Yeah, that's the formula that makes its way around. I mean, 18 months ago she couldn't even drink. Or is it somehow 'okay' because she's famous too and famous people exist solely for our entertainment? If it was A-Rod, I can't imagine the media/fans letting it go. And the thing about him is most of this stuff is not that big a deal if he owned it, but he seems so to so desperately want the approval that these things come off so much worse for him. Isn't noticing hot women in the stands one of those things that people are always joking about players doing? And hell, I bet plenty of them have done just what A-Rod did over the years.

This isn't something _I_ generally judge people for, but many do. Can people (Buzz Bissinger most recently 2 hours ago) un-sarcastically write "Baseball's classiest act" about a guy dating a 22 year old girl 16 years younger than him? Hannah Davis: