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The AngelMets: Ryan K-Rod Both had Whitey at a crucial juncture, but neither had peak-Whitey. 1986 was a huge season for both, but the post-season turned out dramatically differently Had their secondary-team status underscored by the primary team's outstanding but annoying celebrity manager (Billy Martin/Tommy Lasorda) Played in a beguiling-but-dated mid-century modern ballpark from the mid-sixties The Angels were probably the most definitive built-through-free-agency team through much of their mid period, while the Mets were among the most home-grown (and trade-built), which makes for an interesting study in contrasting philosophies. The Mets go from bad to great to bad to good, while the Angels stay pretty good but miss out on the greatness.

I heard "God dug it!" when Mookie got hit. There are other times when you hear him substitute in a meaningless alternative for a profanity, which kind of undercuts Lenny's story of Carter pinning him up on the wall and F-bombing him. Latter-day Lenny's like the anti-Carter. Gary was mentally programmed to substitute in a G-rated syllable for a profanity, and Lenny is mentally programmed to substitute a profanity back in for everything else. It's maybe one of the few parts of Lenny's programming still working.

Thanks. A little outsider POV might have worked also. The Mets were a national phenomenon, and perhaps even bigger than that. It would have been interesting to see how things looked from North Carolina or Michigan. The African-American commentators are fascinating, because to the last, they seem to be trying to say that (a) I ate, breathed, and slept with that team and loved it; and ( there was something racially problematic in the culture that built up around it. They all seemed to be saying both and struggling to reconcile it themselves as the camera rolled.

I think I've come to conflate AJ Ramos with Álex Torres. The former was a righty and the latter a helmeted lefty, I think. Also, as the Angels are the team I've known the least about forever, I always forget that they have those small, mid-character flaring serifs on their numbers, kind of a subtle echo of the Mets' beautiful road chestplate.

That's impressive. I wouldn't advise anybody to go into any kind of business in Miami, but I guess that's why I'm not Eduardo.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I'da liked to hear a little more from Orosco and Danny Heep than we got, which wasn't anything Just finished #3. I don't think we've gotten any HoJo appearances either. They did a chapter on how his homer sunk the Cards, but I'm not sure his latter-day self had anything to say about it. Davey mostly had a four-man pen that year, but Orosco and McDowell are the only relievers to appear in the story, and only McDowell provides commentary. Sisk, Niemann, and Anderson aren't even rumors, and it's a shame, because Sisk was a story, and Anderson was also. Anderson actually might have been two stories. Teufel (mentioned but, I think, never heard from) and Santana (seen but never mentioned) also fall by the wayside. Santana has an incidental part in the Houston series just seeing him waving at balls that seem playable. Houston had a fast rug, but he wasn't playing particularly deep. He kind of looked like a 39-year-old Derek Jeter out there. The complement for Santana was usually that he was a really "smooth" shortstop, who had a fluid motion and made plays look easy. Even back then, it seemed like a backhanded way of saying he wasn't very rangy, but it sure seemed moreso in those old films. For his part, Billy Hatcher seemed to fail to track down a few important, catchable balls also. Either I'm misremembering or there's been some revisionism over the mound conference in the Greatest Game Ever Played (GGEP). Keith and others (Knight? Davey?) report him threatening to fight (or kill) Orosco if he threw another fastball. I remembered it as him threatening Carter if he called another fastball. I'm getting old. The parallel story they tell about the revitalization of the City is really subtle, because there's a good side, and a real shit side, and it really speaks to so much of what followed — Giuliani, Trump, the Central Park Five, Letterman's jump to CBS, 9/11, The War on Terror, Trump again (who really should be a character here, and maybe a contributor), the Rise of Hipster Brooklyn, Hurricane Sandy. You can even see the rise of the 1990s Yankees in the seeds of the 1980s Mets, without too much squinting. That's a sobering thought, but ... .

Well, I ask anyhow.

Let's visit Tom Glavine in his puckhead days. https://images.thepostgame.com/assets/public/tom-glavine-hockey2-ThePostGame.jpg> http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/3/5/8/66398358/hockeypic_pu42qua3.jpg>

I think Stro's second sport was b-ball. I'd joke that it sure wasn't a haircut scholarship, but I'd be afraid he'd kick my ass. https://goduke.com/images/2012/1/24/HIYEPBVXIERQAWH.20120124181633.jpg?width=300>

This is, I believe, the fourth time the Mets have tried to start this particular engine this summer, and each previous time, they haven't liked the sound once they got it turned over. Transactions, 9/21/2021 [td90]Direction[/td90][td90]NEUTRAL[/td90][td90]Transaction[/td90][td90]Sent to Syracuse on Rehab Assignment[/td90][th]Position Group[/th][th]=#FF0000]Starting Pitcher[/th][td90][/td90][td90][fimg=90]http://thecranepool.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Syndergaard-Noah-2019.jpg[/fimg][/td90][td90]Name[/td90][td90]Noah Syndergaard [fimg=50]http://thecranepool.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/US-flag.png[/fimg][/td90][td90]DoB[/td90][td90]8/29/92[/td90][td90]B/T[/td90][td90]L/R[/td90]

I hope the "in-game" portions of this thread has more content and substance than the prologue. I appreciate the fatted sac reference though, and I hope that, if anyone takes Kase up on it, there's video, and I hope it's a live feed from Assclown City. BML, I appreciate you think Kase and several others among us here are assholes. As for me, maybe I am sometimes. I'm sorry. I try hard not to be one. I just ask that, if you really need to call me out as one, you give me enough tolerance to wait until I do something more egregious than starting too many IGTs. If that's the standard of where we incite your castigation, then the room is just going to turn into a big old shitfest fighting forum. I'm certain I speak for the majority of the group when I say that we don't want that. As administrator and chief moderator, folks can certainly tell me if I'm wrong — here or in a private message. If you think I'm full of shit, and Kasey and others are just too insidious and infuriating to allow their statements to pass without censure, I would ask you to please just block these posters. It'd sure be healthier for you and them and whatever is left of the culture here. For me, I've known Kase for a long time. I disagree with him often enough, but he'd be the first guy I'd trust in a tight spot. I hope that, in your circle, you have a dozen friends just like him. But your mileage may vary. Let's post some lineups or something. Wait ... this game is tomorrow?

I like how the Piazzas are wearing access passes, and Mike's all, "I'm Mike Piazza. I go where I want."

I hear you, Rays announcers. I had this thing back in my playing days — if a batter hit a pitch, dropped his bat, and broke for first, I'd grab that bat and hustle it back into my dugout. When a catcher pursued a pop and tossed aside his mask, that became my mask. If you want it, don't drop it. Meanwhile in Wrigley, Conor McGregor is moving in on 50 Cent's act. Lefties and control, man.

Ben Grimm always hoggs up the posts about whether hogging up IGTs is even a thing.

Well, they didn't score a million, but Nimmo scored, and he's one in a million, so ... . And, hey, it ended before 11:00.

OK, let's score a million runs here.

José Reyes within reach. Career Homers by a Met 1) Darryl Strawberry : 252 2) David Wright : 242 3) Mike Piazza : 220 4) Howard Johnson : 192 5) Dave Kingman : 154 6) Carlos Beltran : 149 Michael Conforto Projected to End of Season:: 130.62 7) Michael Conforto : 130 8) Lucas Duda : 125 9) Todd Hundley : 124 10) Kevin McReynolds : 122 11) Edgardo Alfonzo : 120 12) Ed Kranepool : 118 =#FF5910]Michael Conforto at Start of Season: 118 13) Jose Reyes : 108 Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season:: 106.30 T14) Carlos Delgado : 104 T14) Pete Alonso : 104 16) George Foster : 99 T17) Curtis Granderson : 95 T17) Bobby Bonilla : 95 19) John Milner : 94 20) Cleon Jones : 93 … 27) Rusty Staub : 75 28) Ron Swoboda : 69 =#FF5910]Pete Alonso at Start of Season:: 69 29) Ike Davis : 68

Ron Darling is seemingly a better dramatic reader than Gary Cohen.

Mets are really showing themselves to be kings of the warning track this game.

Villar playing for a contract.

Hanging in there.

McCannicle with the sacks jacked and chases the first two sliders out of the zone.

Come on. It's like they're getting crushed by a team from Best Buy.

It seems strange to hear the booth discussing whether Javy Baez is so good that the Mets can't not sign him as the team is getting locked in a box and buried, and that's happening over and over again almost every night.

I feel like all the dice roles were working out in favor of the Mets' shifting in the first half, and it's all catching up to them now.