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Iubitul wrote:I still remember how batters would have their knees buckled by Lord Charles, and look back at the umpire with this look of amazement that would say, "How am I supposed to hit that?"I didn't know curve balls had names until then.

]The Royals finally got past the Yanks and the Phillies finally got past the Dodgers.The Phillies got past the Dodgers the way the Mets got past the Braves in 2000, by having somebody else (the Astros) beat them and then beating the team that got past them. The Phillies did take care of the Dodgers at last in 1983.]Yes, but does KC's victory deserve an asterisk for pine tar? Pine tar was 1983. But any and all helpful substance used against the MFYs should be permitted.I really liked those Royals teams. And really hated those Phillies teams, Tug notwithstanding. When the Mets made their aborted run to respectability in 1980, we took three straight at the Vet in late June. When we lost the fourth game, Dallas Green channeled Leo Durocher and said something to the effect of "those were the real Mets we saw today." I hated Dallas Green from there on out, only lightly suspending that distaste for patches of 1993-96. A team fronted by Carlton, Rose and Bowa may have been very good but they weren't particularly warm and fuzzy. Not that that was their goal.The Royals, on the other hand, were always throwing themselves in the way of the Yankees, so how could you not love them? By the time they finally won it all in '85, they were on the last legs of a tremendous decade and had recovered from a drug scandal. Only thing that bugged me about the 1980 Royals was they had Jose Cardenal, one of the most useless Mets ever who suddenly got to be in the World Series.Very sad to see the Royals of today. Hope Super Joe is holding up.

Edgy DC wrote:I'm starting to understand that Greg is "Faith" and Jace is "Fear."As often as not, it's the other way around. Some days it's hard to tell.

Randy Bobb, who became Met property (he made a 1970 rookie card) in exchange for J.C. Martin.Greg Goossen. In ten years, he has a chance to be Gregg Goossen.Lee Mazzilli, but he needed two z's in the middle so he could be Mazz as opposed to Maz.Tom Hall...or was he simply superfluous?

Come visit the club that Antonio Perez joined Sunday. My partner's post at Faith and Fear today rocks even as it sears.

Say rain plays havoc with the Interleague schedule in 2006. A game between the Mets and the Orioles at Shea is rained out, not to be made up unless it has an impact on the playoff picture.Fast forward to the end of the season. The Mets are out of it (they're 83-78). But the Orioles (toldja it was hypothetical) have a half-game lead on the second-place team in their division so they have to make up that game at Shea the day after the season ends. Their record is less than that of the A.L. Wild Card team (LAA of Anaheim, which finished behind those incredible A's). Therefore only one team from the Orioles' division can go to the playoffs. If the Orioles beat the Mets, they clinch that berth and the second-place team in their division goes home and doesn't play in October.If the Orioles lose, they face a one-game playoff versus the second-place team in their division...which happens to be the New York Yankees.So the question is:1) Do you root for the Orioles and AGAINST the Mets in what is an essentially meaningless game for the Mets to guarantee the Yankees (MFYs, I believe they're called here) and their fans are barred from the playoffs?2) Or do you root for the Mets regardless of extrametropolitan circumstances because you always root for the Mets (and take your chances with the Orioles in a one-game playoff and/or don't care because you don't worry about the Yankees)?

Given this afternoon's events, would you rather:1) Experience at last the thrill of the first no-hitter in Mets history at this juncture of the season knowing that via some deal with the devil it would mean the Mets would definitely NOT make the playoffs this season?or2) Be denied this no-hitter (with no guarantee of another shot at it but no restriction on it potentially happening) and play the rest of the season with the same chances of making the playoffs that already exist, 4 out with 45 to play?It is a ridiculous hypothetical question, I grant you, but I can't answer it.

Willets Point wrote:Isn't that Dick Shot goof knot Wide goof?Wide? Shot?Call Bill Webb.

Yancy Street Gang wrote:Actually, I just looked into this...Game 7000 was a little over a week ago. The Mets have played 64 post-season games, not 54.8 in 1969.12 in 1973.13 in 1986.7 in 1988.10 in 1999.14 in 2000.]* This blog entry comes with a healthy portion of Jace Math (TM), meaning everything in it is probably wrong.When we started Faith and Fear, Jason understood there was to be no math. Can't say he didn't warn us.

Nice bare-hand grab from Dave. Very nice bare-hand grab.Dave isn't mitt-smit.Alas, Pete ain't gold each time -- five runs? -- thus Mets lose.Sigh.Some park Pads have. Real good look.

Edgy DC wrote:FaFiF seems to wheigh the fun factor higher than we do.Good way to put it.Forgot -- Frank Thomas is No. 76 on our list.

The Faith and Fear One Hundred Greatest Mets of the First Forty Years (1962 through 2001) ranks the leftfielders as such:Cleon Jones 15th greatest MetDave Kingman (LF for the better part of two seasons): 27thBenny Agbayani (LF the balance of 2000): 45thKevin McReynolds 48thKevin Mitchell (platoon LF 1986): 64thRickey Henderson 69thSteve Henderson 72ndBernard Gilkey 91stFor more information on criteria,http://mets2005.myblogsite.com/blog/_archives/2005/3/15/436864.htmlThe complete rankings are available down the links column (Look Who's No. 100-1) at Faith and Fear.

metirish wrote:On August 9, 1988, Rich �Goose� Gossage of the Chicago Cubs earns his 300th career save. The veteran right-hander pitches the final inning of the Cubs� 6-4 win over the New York Mets, in what also happens to be the first completed night game at Wrigley Field. A crowd of 36,399 attends the evening affair.http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/history/index.htmIt's being shown on ESPN Classic (during the afternoon, go figure). It's no less annoying now than it was then.Gossage got his 300th save in the same series Carter got his 300th homer. Wonder if that ever happened before.

You will lose your mind when Zambranos aren't two of a kind...http://mets2005.myblogsite.com/blog/_archives/2005/8/8/1117075.html#365172

Edgy DC wrote:Well, I still didn't forget him, I just mislaid him.Buddy's small. Easy to mislay.If you'd lost track of Kingman or Straw -- or Eric Hillman -- that would be something else.

Edgy DC wrote:I forget my source (I think from the Mets' own site) but I got Bud Harrelson there in 1982. I'm pretty sure Rusty's induction day was his own. Those awful wigs stick out in my mind.Mets Media Guide confirms Rusty and Buddy went in together as the first players in 1986. The Mets had run out of no-brainer non-players and were waiting on Tom to retire (Seaver, not Gorman). Rusty Fright Wig today was a separate affair from HOF induction. Don't hold me to it but I think the HOF was tied into Old Timers Day that year.Rusty was broadcasting for the Mets so it wasn't hard to bring him back multiple times.Seaver was inducted the day they retired his number, I think. I don't remember a separate ceremony. Everybody since then has gotten one.

="Lundy"]Pads next.Last time, trey wins.Hope more wins here.West isn't best this year.Road trip!Yeah, Mets need beat Pads, then Bums.Need beat? Must beat.Don't tank this time, boys. Take five wins.Otro Cali News: Alou rips KNBR jerk. Says "hand slap" isn't enuf.

Edgy DC wrote:So, Walker it should be then?Rube Walker played a great role in the implementation of the five-man rotation. Kaz Ishii pitches every fifth day because the Mets have a five-man rotation.Maybe Rube Walker's not such a hero after all.

Iubitul wrote:I think Richie Hebner would be a better fit on that list.I don't understand. All the other people on that list were enemies of the Mets who did terrible things to the Mets whereas Richie Hebner played for the Mets in 1979 and...OH, I GET IT!Besides, I think the Yankees are planning a Ghengis Khan Day for 2006. You know how Steinbrenner loves "my warriors".

You and Gary Cohen are just that crazy. He was floating that idea in a favorable light in the ninth.Castro's been so clutch I wouldn't want to do it except that Castro seems like the kind of guy who if you are start depending on him will let you down.

Willie should've used Octavio Dotel instead of Kenny Rogers.

Roberto Hernandez got old awfully fast this week.

May as well give Geoff Jenkins the 1971 Cy Young award, too.

Perlozzo was a successful Tides manager when he was promoted to The Big Club for the stretch run (such as it was) in '86. I seem to recall Davey then or later grumbling about Cashen sticking him there, sensing a possible replacement hovering over his shoulder.Funny how when an organization is successful that the minor league skippers and Major League coaches are considered presidential timber -- Perlozzo, Harrelson, Cubbage, Robinson. Once the Mets went downhill, they weren't seen as quite the breeding ground of future leaders.

Anybody else reminded of another very hot Thursday afternoon at Shea, just about twenty years ago?http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B08150NYN1985.htmCheck out the unlikely pitching matchup.